Play design was GREAT by Carmichael here. Just have to finish! (2 Viewers)

[max]

He goes deep way too much.

It seems a typical series is: first down - low percentage bomb thrown for incompletion; second down - run between the tackles for two-yard gain; third down - long, low percentage throw that is trying for much more than the 8 yards needed that falls incomplete.

We need to get greater variation in play calls and more short and intermediate throws, more creativity.

 

[boutte]

Now go find the target vs complete stat.

Or just watch the games and believe your eyes.

 

[boutte]

I wonder how much DA's game plan and just general philosophy effects PC's play calling.

 

[sammymvpknight]

I'm not gonna lie, I'm never going to take the bait again for "so and so WR is looking like a star in camp."

I'm not trying to make this into a bash Olave thread but the guy has just been so...passionless.

He was trying on this play. He ran a great route. I understand the criticism, and Olave has been a big disappointment. But I’m pretty sure he did actually lose the ball in the lights on this play.

 

[Damarabi]

I'm sure he either lost it in the lights or needs glasses. We had a 'lost in the lights' in a prior game, though I don't recall who the receiver was.

We've also had problems with slipping/lost footing on multiple occasions at multiple venues. I wonder if something can be done about that.

 

[Tapxe]

We've also had problems with slipping/lost footing on multiple occasions at multiple venues. I wonder if something can be done about that.

I have decided it's ok that they slip. I'd rather they slip and have a bad rep than get too much traction and end the season.

It's happening to other teams as well. I suspect it's a safety thing where you start with less traction and adjust rather than blow out your starting WR's ligaments.

 

[VPCajun]

the OSU gave out Buckeye helmet stickers for a good play. (Which I assume Olave got quite a few.)

Did Olave garner a Clown sticker for this play???

He should have - and have to wear it all year!

 

[big screen D]

Regarding the lost in the lights thing, the face mask some of our skill players wear may be part of the problem.

Early in the game, Shaheed took his off. That tells me it was messing with his ability to locate the ball.

 

[sainthood]

The more appropriate way to look at it is the fan base expected Olave to dominate in year two based on camp, the hype, and him to be a number one receiver. The Saints traded a lot of assets to draft him high last year and with a better quarterback on paper we had higher expectations than what we are seeing on the field. What we see on the field is a young player have Michael Thomas on the other side which should open him up this year more not less. We have seen him not be on the same page with the quarterback appear to run poor routes or let the ball hit him in the head like this and it. The whole offense has been the subject of constant concern. Olave's play is part of that concern not because he looks bad but that it is emblematic of an offense out of sync and we expected so much more from Olave and the offense with Carr overall. The underlying hopeful not for me is that if Olave starts to be a 100 yard per game type of wideout this entire offense will elevate with him.

 

[Cougar 2]

Regarding the lost in the lights thing, the face mask some of our skill players wear may be part of the problem.

Early in the game, Shaheed took his off. That tells me it was messing with his ability to locate the ball.

Good observation, D!

The lighting varies from stadium to stadium. Especially because he’s a returner, Sheed may well have had difficulty in locating:fielding the ball, so he wisely adjusted accordingly.

 

[los226]

1 TD. That’s the only number that matters there.

 

[big screen D]

Good observation, D!

The lighting varies from stadium to stadium. Especially because he’s a returner, Sheed may well have had difficulty in locating:fielding the ball, so he wisely adjusted accordingly.

Those face shields on skill players have always bothered me.

On one hand, particularly for backs, the face shield can mask the defense where the runner is seeing the hole developing. On the other, the subtle looks between pass catchers and the QB have to be degraded.

Kamara seems to have no issues. So, maybe I'm wrong.

 

[t-rex23]

He was trying on this play. He ran a great route. I understand the criticism, and Olave has been a big disappointment. But I’m pretty sure he did actually lose the ball in the lights on this play.

I mean, I agree with you but I also feel pretty strongly that a former first round pick who was supposed to be on the brink of superstardom has no excuse for getting hit in the head with a football when no one is within 10 yards of him.

 

[Cougar 2]

Those face shields on skill players have always bothered me.

On one hand, particularly for backs, the face shield can mask the defense where the runner is seeing the hole developing. On the other, the subtle looks between pass catchers and the QB have to be degraded.

Kamara seems to have no issues. So, maybe I'm wrong.

Again, I think the combination of the mask n lighting can affect some receivers, esp on high, deep passes. Another factor could b experience, as vet players are used to em n probably more comfortable with em than younger players. Just a thought.

AK gets VERY few deep passes, but as a vet, it probably doesn’t affect him anyway, But like you said, it’s an advantage for him, esp on those short/intermediate option routes.