Queen Elizabeth II (Update: the Queen has passed) (1 Viewer)

[Paul]

Dont let any of this distract you all from the fact that @Paul once appeared in court and mistakenly addressed the judge as ‘Your Majesty’….

Dude I even bowed a little.

 

[baarbogast]

 

[DoubleSaint]

RIP Ma’am

You’ll be hard pressed to find another human being that commanded the level of respect that she did from all corners of this planet.

Britain lost a part of its identity yesterday.

 

[ChrisinNOLA]

Saw Morrissey at the Saenger a couple years ago. Phenomenal show.

 

[superchuck500]

 

[SystemShock]

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And she's right. Those crown jewels, where do you think they come from? You think they bought that at Tiffany's?

 

[Chris]

 

[SystemShock]

@fred8615 , are you saying they did buy the crown jewels at Tiffany's?

No, they came from pillaging and plundering other people's lands and treasures for centuries.

My wife read me a funny tweet: it said "maybe the Egyptians will steal her casket and display it in one of their museums".

I frankly don't get some people's fascination with the so-called royals.

 

[guidomerkinsrules]

And she's right. Those crown jewels, where do you think they come from? You think they bought that at Tiffany's?

They come from the Downton Abbey crown jewel mines
…or so I was led to believe

 

[guidomerkinsrules]

 

[Mr. Blue Sky]

 

[ChrisinNOLA]

That went well

 

[bigdaddysaints]

I frankly don't get some people's fascination with the so-called royals.

I mean, just look at Kim Kardashian..

 

[Saintman2884]

I empathise with the young girl in the video earlier who was trying to be desperately polite and inoffensive but had the courage to say she wasn't a fan of the Royals.

It may seem quaint to people from other countries but the whole British honors system and nobility reinforces the ancient notion that some people are born superior to others and, as an accident of birth, are deserving of immense influence, power and wealth whatever the content of their character. The Queen's middle son is a good example!

For the vast majority of us who are not ennobled (we are called commoners by the way) - it means we are brought up to believe we are lesser citizens of our own country and need to call the countless b@st@rd children of blood-soaked Norman warlords, a German ethnic cleanser (ask the Scots about George II), and a handful of fat gout-ridden drunks (Henry VIII, George IV, Edward VII etc) our betters. Royal illegitimates and distant descendants make up much of the British aristocracy.

Aristocrats also have the right to call themselves Lord, Sir, Your Highness etc; to get paid a daily fee for entering the most glamorous gentleman's club in the world (The House of Lords pays a daily attendance allowance of £323 plus meals - which is about the same as a poor person gets a month on universal credit); to shape the laws of this country even though none are elected; and to exercise local power over their shire-county communities where they are almost always the major land owner (and therefore employer).

This doesn't mean I hate the Queen or anything - I never met her, never spoke to her, have no idea what's she's like as a person and have no real connection beyond seeing her on TV. I just don't understand people grieving for someone they don't know....

You do know or are aware that George II's actions towards the Scots had to do with the Jacobite Rebellion of 1745 with a splinter, Stuart prince wanting to recapture what he believed to be his God-given throne and essentially, the Scottish Jacobites were essentially trying to take over and remove George's Hanoverian line. The Battle of Colluden and the previous Rising that preceded was also overtly supported financially and militarily by King Louis XV, England's biggest rival.

Its been argued, quite logically and effectively by most historians that George I's actions and policies towards ordinary Scots, Scottish traditions and customs after the war were heavy-handed, and unnecessary but lets not pretend there wasnt a reason why he felt he needed to make those draconian decisions. A rogue, flamboyant Scottish Stuart Jacobite prince tried and nearly succeeded in taking his and his family's throne. The UK, by that point, was facing its biggest internal crisis since the English Civil Wars of Charles I thinking he didnt Parliament's approval to enact and pass laws and if the Scottish Jacobites had succeeded, George II and his household couldve faced the same fate as Charles I in January 1649, even though Cromwell and other sympathetic Roundheads, Parliamentarians tried to get Charles to agree to become a constitutional monarch but Charles kept refusing the authority of his judges.

I agree with you about Henry VIII and George IV, during the latter's reign, there were some pretty scandalous, scathing cartoons poking fun and mocking his weight and large figure. The sad and really pathetic thing one has to take into consideration about Henry VIII's ambitions is that he really wanted to be a major player in Continental affairs, and honestly, during his reign, England didn't yet have the large, maritime infrastructure or the economy yet to build a huge, overseas, New World empire compared to Spain, France or Portugal. I think Henry realized at some point late in his reign that he wasnt the big player on the world's stage he assumed he was or could be compared to Charles X. England's first successful colonies in the New World wouldn't come about until some 60 years after Henry's death and the Tudors no longer reigned after Elizabeth I's death.

 

[guidomerkinsrules]

I mean, just look at Kim Kardashian..

nah, I’m good