Right Turn on Red (1 Viewer)

Apparently this is a big enough issue in downtown Dallas, that there's a local commercial instructing a jay-walking pedestrian on how to properly navigate crossing an intersection, complete with observing the pedestrian lights.
We used to learn this kind of stuff in grade school.
 
Hell, cars still get hit by trains that are ..... on a track. But, sure, banning right on red will solve a part of the problem where a pedestrian tourist is walking without looking where they're going, say, in New Orleans because they are shocked, SHOCKED, to find out there are cars on the roads. All those kinds of people would never survive walking in London where you have to, 1, look in the opposite way and, 2, ain't no cars or double deckers stopping for your arse.
I visited my son in Washington DC this weekend and there are people walking everywhere. I ditched my car. If you can't beat 'em, join 'em! He lives in NE near Children's National Hospital and Catholic University. It's a nice eclectic area, and loaded with pedestrian traffic. We walked to an Indian restaurant, a Chinese grill, and the grocery store. Vehicular traffic was light. Well-marked crosswalks and well-lit streets.
 
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Hoping against all hope that the people around here will actually figure out that a right on red is legal before they make it illegal. My other favorite is the driver who waits for the left turn arrow when the light is green and the coast is completely clear.

Brought to you by the land of oblivious drivers.
 
Honestly, in larger cities they probably should ban it.
 
Another reason: pedestrians glued to their phones and/or not looking where they are going

Stop. Look left, look right then cross the street

They teach you that in kindergarten

I'm amazed how many people I see just cross without a second glace, or looking up from phones
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For the past 50 years, red-blooded Americans have enjoyed a freedom the Founding Fathers hardly dreamed of: the ability to turn right on a red light. But with pedestrian fatalities at a four-decade high, a movement is afoot to change that.

This month, San Francisco supervisors unanimously voiced support for a ban on right-on-red. Last year, the practice was banned in Cambridge, Massachusetts. New York has long barred it, Denver could soon, and Washington DC has taken steps toward a ban. Seattle, meanwhile, has made no-right-on-red the city’s “default” policy at new traffic signals. A growing media chorus agrees it’s time for change.

The shift comes as pedestrian deaths in the US soar to their highest levels since 1981. Last year, at least 7,508 people were killed while walking, according to a report by the non-profit Governors Highway Safety Association, which also found a 77% increase in fatalities between 2010 and 2021.

There are many possible reasons for this, including the popularity of SUVs, more people walking in suburbs built for cars, and reckless driving that worsened during Covid. Banning right turns on red lights certainly wouldn’t eliminate all pedestrian deaths – but it could help, advocates say.……

*Laughs in Dallas drivers.
 
There are intersections that haven't had a street sign in over 20 years. They aren't putting up no turn on red signs

"What street am I on?! What is this cross street?!"

One of the many reasons I loathe driving in DC
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The District is banning right turns at red lights beginning January 1, but police won’t be enforcing this new law at intersections where signage isn’t present.

A Metropolitan Police Department spokesperson told 7News police will continue their current enforcement practice at intersections that have signage indicating drivers can’t turn right on red.

The legislation, which was enacted without the mayor’s signature in late 2022, requires DDOT to implement a public education campaign and alter or install signage to ensure the ban beginning in 2025 is effective.

The District Department of Transportation (DDOT) has argued the legislation wasn’t funded. A DDOT spokesperson said the department is “working diligently” to install No Turn on Red signs in “strategic locations” as part of their safety strategy.

“When drivers approach an intersection with a red light, they should approach with caution and come to a complete stop,” the agency spokesperson told 7News in an emailed statement. “If a sign is present that indicates they cannot turn red, they must follow the law.”

There are more than 1,600 signal intersections in the district and installing No Turn on Red signs at all of them would require up to 13,000 signs, according to DDOT.

The law, passed by the D.C. Council in late 2022, doesn’t require “no turn on red” signage at every intersection. It bans those turns unless DDOT has installed signs permitting them............

 
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Talk about muscle memory...we don't have left turn on red here in NZ (opposite side driving), but I still have to consciously stop myself from doing it after so many years driving in the US.
 
I see this as both a pedestrian and driver issue, bit I hold ultimate responsibility on the driver. Typically, drivers that are turning on "red", fail to STOP before attempting to turn at a very high rate. Red light means STOP. If they want to address the problem, then enforce RED LIGHT violations.
 

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