Rizzi didn’t like the draw offsides play on 4th and 1 (1 Viewer)

[Artifactual]

Just look at last night. Bowles had a chance to hand the Chiefs their first loss of the season by going for two. Kicks the extra point, loses the OT coin toss, and Kansas City drives down for the game winning TD.

You can't compare those two decisions equally. Had Bowles went for 2 he could have won the game with a successful try, on the other hand he would have lost the game on a failed attempt. Putting the game on the line on a single play would be lower odds than giving yourself a chance to win in OT. As Cam Newton once said, hindsight is 50/50. The Bux didn't lose the game on a single play. Had they won the coin toss and scored themselves the results would have been a different story.

D.A. not going for the 4th and 1 at midfield was totally different. Had he gone for it and made it the Saints have a 1st down inside the 50 and control the clock and the game with a 5 point lead. They would have been less than 10 yards away from a reasonable FG attempt. Who knows, they may have gotten a few more 1st downs to make it a much closer FG attempt. A made FG puts the Saints up by 8. You can't lose the game at that point by giving up a TD and a 2 pt conversion. CAR could only tie. However, a TD on that drive puts the game away as there's likely less than 3 minutes left in the game and the Saints would be up by 12 points.

Had the Saints went for it and not made it the worst-case scenario would have they turn the ball over on downs near midfield. They still have a 5 point lead. CAR must score a TD to take the lead. There's about 5 minutes left in the game. Even had CAR scored a TD at that point the Saints would have had more than 2 minutes with a chance to win on a FG.

Not going for it on the 4th and 1 at midfield was a cowardly decision. D.A. either had no faith in his offense picking up the short yardage or he had no faith in his defense being able to stop CAR from driving 50 yards to score a TD. Maybe both. With that mindset what difference does it make it the other team has to drive 80 yards or 50 yards to score? Either way you're coaching with the mindset that you can't stop them. This on a team that had put up less than 200 yards offense to that point.

The running game with Kamara had been producing results the entire game. Someone should have shown D.A. the stats.

Taysom had made both of the short yardage attempts earlier that resulted in first downs. On one he willed his way to a first down. Bully Ball!

 

[superchuck500]

Even Allen’s own coaching staff thought he was an idiot

I think that's the call that got DA fired and Rizzi knows it.

Just terrible - you have Taysom Hill killing it on short yardage and a defense full of third-stringers. Just a total bad decision. It wasn't even 4th and 1, it was 4th and about three inches.

 

[MudvilleStomper]

How much influence did DA have in the play calling? Does anyone actually know?

In his defense, if your defense is playing better than your offense, then pinning your opponent and then letting your defense go stuff them isn't such a bad idea.

For the record, I would have given it to Taysom in the Bink package. While I'm at it, Taysom and AK should be on the field for every one of those plays, even if the plan is to get someone else the ball.

 

[Jesse Custer]

If I've got Taysom in the fold and I'm not using him in short yardage, what the hell is he even doing on the team? That was almost as stupid a playcall as a pass at the goal line when you've got Beastmode in the backfield and he's been destroying dudes all game in the Super Bowl.

 

[ilvdsnts]

I think that's the call that got DA fired and Rizzi knows it.

Just terrible - you have Taysom Hill killing it on short yardage and a defense full of third-stringers. Just a total bad decision. It wasn't even 4th and 1, it was 4th and about three inches.

Between that and clock mismanagement at the end of the 1st half yet again.

 

[superchuck500]

How much influence did DA have in the play calling? Does anyone actually know?

In his defense, if your defense is playing better than your offense, then pinning your opponent and then letting your defense go stuff them isn't such a bad idea.

For the record, I would have given it to Taysom in the Bink package. While I'm at it, Taysom and AK should be on the field for every one of those plays, even if the plan is to get someone else the ball.

I think the decision to punt (especially in a close game in the 4th quarter) comes from the HC.

 

[Rouxble]

I think the decision to punt (especially in a close game in the 4th quarter) comes from the HC.

Without a doubt, no way anyone else on the team is making that call, short of the team choosing to run a different play like they did in the victory formation last year.

 

[B4YOU]

It was a terribly coached game. There are situations like 4th & 1 and clock management are HC calls. DA got those wrong.

 

[VPCajun]

I think that's the call that got DA fired and Rizzi knows it.

Just terrible - you have Taysom Hill killing it on short yardage and a defense full of third-stringers. Just a total bad decision. It wasn't even 4th and 1, it was 4th and about three inches.

Players should have taken that situation into their own hands ala The Victory Formation revolt!!!

(Visions of DA immediately after the successful 1st down running onto the field screaming uncontrollably to the Panthers, I APOLOGIZE! I APOLOGIZE! I APOLOGIZE!)

ETA: Wouldn't it be something if we found out that the Fake Punt was indeed a Players Revolt!!!

 

[Super]

That’s the exact point I went over to the dark side.

 

[gregh]

run taysom behind the fullback and shepard, no way they dont get it. but im glad they didnt get it

 

[AARPSaint]

run taysom behind the fullback and shepard, no way they dont get it. but im glad they didnt get it

I think you mean Saunders, but you’re right. Some are saying that this call was the proverbial straw that broke the camel’s back.

 

[Optimistic Ozzy]

You're 2-6, why would you not go for it? Same thing with the Bucs games 2 years ago. Same thing with the Chargers game on the opening drive. Pure insanity.

 

[superchuck500]

That’s the exact point I went over to the dark side.

Same

 

[Rexman100]

Just look at last night. Bowles had a chance to hand the Chiefs their first loss of the season by going for two. Kicks the extra point, loses the OT coin toss, and Kansas City drives down for the game winning TD.

i agree, im not even a fan of going for the 2. But last night i said, this is where you do it. They scored easily. KC d was confused. Just run a hurry up and play action roll out find the TE after his release (or similar)