Saints Cap Moves: Derek Carr restructured, Erik McCoy restructured; J. Williams released; cap space is at -$8,543,537 (118 Viewers)

[ELLIASJWILLIAMS]

What you quoted doesn't say anything about someone at the Saints were asking Carr to take a paycut.

The link is to an article by Triplett or Underhill that's behind a paywall.

I don't have a subscription, so please quote the part of the article that says someone in the Saints organization told them that the Saints were asking Carr to take a paycut. Thank you in advance for providing the quote.

Ok sir.

I'm just going to be honest w/ you. You go out of your way to cross reference anything I Say. Then because it's clear you're opinion is already set I refuse to be some type of donkey and go and pull data that you're only going to shoot down.

Stop talking to me, I do not like you.

 

[DSnfla]

We haven't drafted a 1st round QB since 1971. The longest active drought in the NFL. How did that work out for us till 2006?

You probably won't ever see a HOF QB entering their prime come available again in your lifetime.

That just leaves drafting one.

LOL when you have a HOF QB play for you for 15 yrs there's not much reason to use a 1st rd pick on a QB . AND we have not had any 1st rd QB busts either. Might want to ask the Browns , Jets, 49ers Bucs,and about 10 other teams how drafting a 1st rd QB worked out for them

 

[StudioSaint]

Ok sir.

Are you saying you'll post the quote from the article that says they were told by someone from the Saints that they were asking Carr to take a paycut?

 

[StudioSaint]

Ok sir.

I'm just going to be honest w/ you. You go out of your way to cross reference anything I Say.

Honestly, I don't. I respond to maybe 10% of your posts. The only time I've asked you and others for a source is when you make claims that I haven't seen supported in any actual reports.

You aren't even the first person I asked to please provide a source that says the Saints told someone they were asking Carr to take a paycut. You seem to be personalizing something that isn't personal.

Then because it's clear you're opinion is already set I refuse to be some type of donkey and go and pull data that you're only going to shoot down.

When I hear someone say something like this, it almost always means that they realize they can't actually find a source that supports what they are saying, because they misread their original source.

Stop talking to me, I do not like you.

That's unnecessary and unfortunate.

 

[DSnfla]

So called "sports reporters" act a lot more like influencers these days than they do actual reporters. They are all more heavily invested in coming across as experts and telling people what they should think. They all get really testy when teams, coaches and players don't do what they've spent a lot of time preaching that they should do.

I think it's because it undermines their credibility and if they lose that, then they lose their job. That's a lot of stress to be under, so I get why they get so upset and lash out at people who don't do what they've been telling everyone that those people should do.

Excatly, Nick's article says multiple times that he does not blame DC for not taking a pay cut but the whole article infers that yes he should have taken a pay cut. Typical Nick playing both sides of the fence.

 

[SuperSaint]

Now, Carr's cap hit next year will be close to $70M, bad way to do business.

Kick that can.

 

[Lionsaint]

So after reading the reports that Kellen wants Carr for this season I started thinking back to the hiring process. Remember when there were reports he didn’t like our QB room or potential QB room? What if during the interview process Loomis is also laying out some of the Saints plans for 2025. And he tells Kellen that they are thinking of releasing Carr and rolling with our young guys plus maybe trying to sign a cheap veteran backup. Kellen hears this and says he doesn’t like it. He wants a veteran QB aka Carr. So it gets reported that he doesn’t like the QB room and everyone just assumes he doesn’t want Carr. When in fact it was the opposite.

Loomis really wants Kellen so he lets him know that they will work towards keeping Carr and Kellen is hired. Pure speculation but it fits all the data and information we now know.

 

[tim martin]

Dear god, let this be the last year of this guy playing QB.

man i don’t really have a strong opinion on carr but some of you act like he’s just awful. He may never win a ring but he can def get to the playoffs with a good team

 

[StudioSaint]

So after reading the reports that Kellen wants Carr for this season I started thinking back to the hiring process. Remember when there were reports he didn’t like our QB room or potential QB room? What if during the interview process Loomis is also laying out some of the Saints plans for 2025. And he tells Kellen that they are thinking of releasing Carr and rolling with our young guys plus maybe trying to sign a cheap veteran backup. Kellen hears this and says he doesn’t like it. He wants a veteran QB aka Carr. So it gets reported that he doesn’t like the QB room and everyone just assumes he doesn’t want Carr. When in fact it was the opposite.

Loomis really wants Kellen so he lets him know that they will work towards keeping Carr and Kellen is hired. Pure speculation but it fits all the data and information we now know.

It's possible that's how it happened. What seems very unlikely at this point is that Carr is being forced on Moore or that Moore doesn't really want Carr and is just stuck with him.

 

[WhoDat6278]

Just stop with the QB is soley responsible for the W/L record of the TEAM. C'mon man are you truly that uninformed ???

Typing the odd word in uppercase does not mean you are correct. He did not say Carr is “soley” the reason for his poor record.

 

[dwamel99]

Is carr better than hurts ? Eagles O line better? Yes can Kellen Moore create more offense plays for Carr and the offense? End a weak division.

 

[WhoDat6278]

LOL when you have a HOF QB play for you for 15 yrs there's not much reason to use a 1st rd pick on a QB . AND we have not had any 1st rd QB busts either. Might want to ask the Browns , Jets, 49ers Bucs,and about 10 other teams how drafting a 1st rd QB worked out for them

So, because we had a HOF QB for 15 years (out of the 50+ years referenced) that’s justification for not taking a QB in the 1st round? Brilliant logic.

 

[jboss]

Are you talking about next year? This obviously wasn't done to cut him this year.

I stated the year in my post

 

[DSnfla]

So after reading the reports that Kellen wants Carr for this season I started thinking back to the hiring process. Remember when there were reports he didn’t like our QB room or potential QB room? What if during the interview process Loomis is also laying out some of the Saints plans for 2025. And he tells Kellen that they are thinking of releasing Carr and rolling with our young guys plus maybe trying to sign a cheap veteran backup. Kellen hears this and says he doesn’t like it. He wants a veteran QB aka Carr. So it gets reported that he doesn’t like the QB room and everyone just assumes he doesn’t want Carr. When in fact it was the opposite.

Loomis really wants Kellen so he lets him know that they will work towards keeping Carr and Kellen is hired. Pure speculation but it fits all the data and information we now know.

That was Russini chasing clicks, she said that the scuttlebutt was that KM didn't like the QB room so that would be the reason he turned down the job. KM said that he wanted the job from the get go. so Russini was wrong.

More than likely in the meeting KM laid out his plan for what to do @ the QB position and ML agreed with it. ML did say that KM had a really good plan when they met

 

[Boy_of_wonder75]

Pretty self explanatory.

Evidence #1 -He didn't take a paycut
Evidence #2 - They tried to per Nick Underhill

They tried to what? He doesn't say what they tried to do.