Saints Cap Moves: Derek Carr restructured, Erik McCoy restructured; J. Williams released; cap space is at -$8,543,537 (114 Viewers)

[BlackNGoldblood]

We literally made this move so that we CAN be aggressive in free agency as we said we plan to be, but sure continue speaking off the cuff with your emotions.

This is the same kind of thinking that put this organization in the spot it’s in now. This team needs a COMPLETE overhaul. That $30 million we added in cap room will be only a drop in the bucket towards the talent improvement this team needs to seriously compete.

 

[Taker597]

Eh…maybe that’s your case but there’s plenty of sentiment through others here and on social media that this is about absolutely despising Carr.

Your opinion/assessment believe it or not does not speak for or reflect all of Saints social media.

Neither does your. Did I reference Saints Social Media... I didn't. I'm talking about the mass majority of fans that want to have an intellectual conversation on the Saints.


Going to Twitter and you can find people that hate Jesus and mother Theresa. It doesn't hold much weight.

Critiquing a subjective take with your own subjective take is redundant and not a real avenue for a rebuttal.

 

[Tulsa Saint]

Because this team is in cap hell, isn’t going anywhere this year or next, because we don’t have talent, are aging, and don’t have the cap space to add impact players.

Cap space to add impact players:

I was told this was a bad thing and the saints need to build through the draft,take their medicine and go bargain bin until cap healthy.

Is that NOT the case?

 

[Nolan]

I'm

You seem to not understand that getting rid of Carr has nothing to do with Carr.

It's all points to wanting organically rebuild the roster and go about it differently than last 3 seasons which all have ended in failure.

Unfortunately having a different philosophy in terms of team building just equates to being a Carr hater to a lot of folks.

Fans are tired of seeing the same charade of going all-in with mediocrity, and I don't blame them. I'm certainly one of them.

 

[Tulsa Saint]

This is the same kind of thinking that put this organization in the spot it’s in now. This team needs a COMPLETE overhaul. That $30 million we added in cap room will be only a drop in the bucket towards the talent improvement this team needs to seriously compete.

A complete overhaul won’t happen until the fanbase demonstrates through ACTION and not words this is what they want.

 

[Taker597]

 

[Taker597]

 

[ravenblade23x]

This was a game of chicken and the Saints blinked first.

Carr's leverage was the simple fact that cutting him forces the Saints to restructure the entire rest of the team to get cap complainant and likely gives the Saints zero cap space for FA moves and would force them to field one of the worst NFL rosters of all time.

The Saint's leverage was the very real fact that on the open market Carr is not likely getting $40m a year. Not nearly as many QB opening as there are FA QBs and Carr if cut could have found himself taking an even larger pay cut.

I was pretty sure that Carr was not taking a pay cut, he is the type of guy that is always going to bet on himself. In the end he get's his $40m and the Saints are forced to kick the can again.

Playing around with the OTC calculator with a base restructure means Carr's 2026 cap hit is $69m with a dead money hit of $28 and cap saving of $32m if cut. No way the Saints are paying Carr $69M next year and if they could not find away to work out a new contract now it's likely he is gone next year. The Saints decided it was better to keep him another year and take a smaller cap hit in 2026 when they will have a little more cap space to take on the dead money.

 

[duckjr78]

So, a honest question to the folks that hate this: Would you rather they have done the necessary & similar machinations with multiple aging vets?

 

[BlackNGoldblood]

Cap space to add impact players:

I was told this was a bad thing and the saints need to build through the draft,take their medicine and go bargain bin until cap healthy.

Is that NOT the case?

Do you think taking a $69 million cap hit in 2026, for Derek Carr, is the epitome of the Saints “taking their medicine and go bargain binning until cap healthy?” This is the complete opposite of that. And like Taker597 said, the roster on this team will now very likely be worse next year than this year.

 

[abnrgr]

We have two draft classes to address the personnel losses in 2026. We are about to get younger as a team. Key is nailing the picks this year and next.

 

[JPSaints87]

Well, Loomis. Play stupid games, get stupid prizes.

 

[Elvis]

The cap will go up another ~$25 million next year, and we'll be able to designate post 6/1. Next year will indeed be far better to manage the dead money.

Cool story. Including Carr, we have 8 out of 22 starters under contract next year. But I'm sure that'll be enough to replace all of those guys.

 

[St. Geezy]

Neither does your. Did I reference Saints Social Media... I didn't. I'm talking about the mass majority of fans that want to have an intellectual conversation on the Saints.


Going to Twitter and you can find people that hate Jesus and mother Theresa. It doesn't hold much weight.

Critiquing a subjective take with your own subjective take is redundant and not a real avenue for a rebuttal.

My subjective take? Lol

I literally have mentioned both sides of the argument, even with the post - the finances, and the Carr hating side. Hence why I said “Aside from the financial ramifications, this is the other part people just fail to want to accept.”

But sure, go on continuing making things up and saying things that don’t make sense and didn’t happen just because you’re angry and emotional right now.

 

[Mr. Coach Klein]

Will definitely be designated post 6/1. So half of that will hit the cap in 2026, half in 2027.

This was always the most likely scenario.

Finally some common sense. If we cut him post 6/1 this year wed have had to restructure almost every single contract adding void years to a bunch of 35 yr olds