Saints Cap Moves: McCoy/Carr restructures , Williams released; cap space is at -$8,543,537 (279 Viewers)

[St. Geezy]

Wonder if this means a Tyrann paycut is coming?

 

[Taker597]

This just makes no sense to me but what do I know.

Moving forward now I’ll be curious to see how he and Moore work together, and to see how the draft plays out especially with regards to the QB position and possible trade backs for future draft picks. A restructure and not an extension makes me think Carr is more than likely a 2026 post June 1 cut (though Im not clear on how you get cap compliant with that figure in the books till June - @Elvis / @Rouxble any thoughts?)

Regardless, this feels like an expensive bridge year (2025 drafted QB? Rattler?) and/or a planned move up in the 2026 draft for a QB next year.

Just pencil in Saints 2027 in your calendar.

It would of been nice to cut a deal with Carr to cut him and tank for QB. 2026 would of been exciting with a rookie QB.

We'll do the same thing we been doing. Win 7-9 games. Get a mid draft pick. Make excuses for injuries. Rinse. Repeat.

 

[WhoDat?DrewDat]

Perfectly said.

 

[Taker597]

You think this move makes it more likely we move up to take Ward?

Not really possible. Be too expensive.

 

[jesusfish]

Fletch is livid

My favorite Chevy Chase movie is Fletch Livid

 

[St. Geezy]

We'll have 8 starters left from 2025, including Carr. We'll obviously have new ones, but they'll cost money too.

Carr is 77-92 as a starter and 0-1 in the playoffs.

Correction - his TEAMS are 77-92 and 0-1 with him starting. TEAMS.

I suppose he himself should have done more so that he had a defense ranked better than 20th even just once during his time in Oakland/Vegas? Or done more to make Dennis Allen a more competent head coach, or done more to help the strength and conditioning team keep our team healthy and away from a historical amount of injuries?

 

[Tulsa Saint]

You think this move makes it more likely we move up to take Ward?

I mean they really really like him apparently so it’s not out of the question.

I think if Moore really thinks he’s the guy then I’d have no qualms.

I prefer him over sanders

 

[Mojomajik9]

I understand restructuring Carr so you don’t have to restructure a ton of other vets. I get this also allows for signing some free agents and draft picks. I got it.

But…as a fan and seeing the general fan reaction to this…ehhh. I think most people wanted a completely new Saints era with Moore and Carr, rightly or wrongly, is forever tied to DA. So that DA vibe might linger.

He’s also just not liked by the fans in a way I haven’t seen in a long time. It might have been too hard to do but damn I wish this was a true fresh start and turning of the page.

 

[Mr. Coach Klein]

I really don't know how anyone can be so confident this was done just to cut him. Not a single thing about this has suggested that. Carr's starting every game he's available in 2025.

Are you talking about next year? This obviously wasn't done to cut him this year.

 

[BlackNGoldblood]

Just pencil in Saints 2027 in your calendar.

It would of been nice to cut a deal with Carr to cut him and tank for QB. 2026 would of been exciting with a rookie QB.

We'll do the same thing we been doing. Win 7-9 games. Get a mid draft pick. Make excuses for injuries. Rinse. Repeat.

So it seems you’re not buying St. Geezy and TulsaSaint’s argument that this was the only move they could do (if Carr was unwilling to take a pay cut), because letting him walk would cause the Saints to kick the can even more just to field a team this year?

 

[StudioSaint]

Loomis caved. Yikes.

That's an assumption based on zero information of what was discussed between Loomis and Carr's agent.

 

[St. Geezy]

You’re saying it was their ONLY option, which sounds to me like you see it as achieving both goals - fielding a more competitive team this year and not doing a bunch of restructures of players they don’t value long term. Triplett apparently thinks this is only a win now decision, which you seem to disagree with.

Not even in the slightest. You’re reading me wrong. I am saying quite the opposite - That restructuring this Carr deal is how we get better immediately so that we can (possibly) win immediately.

If you don’t re-do this Carr deal and cut him, you’re effectively torpedoing your chances of winning in 2025.

 

[StudioSaint]

That doesn't at all sound like "Loomis caved."

 

[BlackNGoldblood]

I mean they really really like him apparently so it’s not out of the question.

I think if Moore really thinks he’s the guy then I’d have no qualms.

I prefer him over sanders

Greg Cosell says Ward needs development, as all rookies do, but that he’s clearly the best of the QBs in the class. Interestingly, he thinks the second best QB in the draft is Tyler Shough, who is 6 days older than Trevor Lawrence.

 

[nolastyle]

I really don't know how anyone can be so confident this was done just to cut him. Not a single thing about this has suggested that. Carr's starting every game he's available in 2025.

Sorry, i wasn't very clear. Those numbers assume he is cut AFTER this season. He will definitely start when healthy in 2025.