Saints Draft Re-do 2020 (1 Viewer)

[fahad]

Re-Drafting without Trades .. selecting at same pick order

No. # Round Pick # Player Name Position College​

2020​	1​	1​	24​	24​	Cesar Ruiz​	C​	Michigan​
	2​	3​	10​	74​	Zack Baun​	LB​	Wisconsin​
	3​	3​	41​	105​	Adam Trautman​	TE​	Dayton​
	4​	7​	26​	240​	Tommy Stevens​	QB​	Mississippi State​

Better pick @24 QB Jordan Love - Utah State (Selected #26 by Green Bay Packers) or WR Brandon Aiyuk - Arizona State (Selected #25 by SF 49res)
Better pick @74 OG Jonah Jackson - Ohio State (Selected #75 by Detroit Lions) or stay with Zack Baun
Better pick @105 T/OG Michael Onwenu - Michigan (Selected #182 by NE Patriots)
Better pick @240 N/A

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What you guys think? for discussion

 

[SweetT]

I always point to this draft as proof that we do not select BPA. There is no way anyone will ever convince me, that all that talent in the 2nd rd, wasn’t better than the Ruiz pick. Not buying. Sell that nonsense to someone else.

 

[2009ring]

at 24 Jalen Hurts
Stay with Baun in round 3 and actually use him corrrectly
2nd round 3 pick draft the Center that the Cowboys took in 4
doesn't matter who we pick round 4 but why are they always terrible QBs LOL.

Profit

 

[Saint Greg]

I always point to this draft as proof that we do not select BPA. There is no way anyone will ever convince me, that all that talent in the 2nd rd, wasn’t better than the Ruiz pick. Not buying. Sell that nonsense to someone else.

We haven’t drafted BPA in a long time. That’s how we are always able to predict our pick. We knew it was an OT last year, DT the year before, WR/OT the year we took Olave and Penning.

In 2020 I believe we were going to take Kenneth Murray…. Ruiz ended up being plan B. We drafted the linebacker need the next year in the 2nd round (Werner).

 

[SweetT]

We haven’t drafted BPA in a long time. That’s how we are always able to predict our pick. We knew it was an OT last year, DT the year before, WR/OT the year we took Olave and Penning.

In 2020 I believe we were going to take Kenneth Murray…. Ruiz ended up being plan B. We drafted the linebacker need the next year in the 2nd round (Werner).

Ruiz shouldn’t have been plan B.

 

[livefromDC]

I always point to this draft as proof that we do not select BPA. There is no way anyone will ever convince me, that all that talent in the 2nd rd, wasn’t better than the Ruiz pick. Not buying. Sell that nonsense to someone else.

It's the point where they started chasing "need" with the first pick. We see the result. While the players taken aren't particularly bad, better choices were left behind. It's rare for BPA and need to line up. When it doesn't, you have to take the best player.

 

[Saint Greg]

It's the point where they started chasing "need" with the first pick. We see the result. While the players taken aren't particularly bad, better choices were left behind. It's rare for BPA and need to line up. When it doesn't, you have to take the best player.

I think it started in 2018 with the trade up for Davenport...which interestingly enough is when we started drafting poorly. That's when we felt we were just a pass rusher away and got desperate. One of those years we even tried trading a second round pick for a team to sign and trade Clowney to us because we didn't have the cap space to sign him but the NFL didn't approve it.

 

[Jesse Custer]

I'm more upset about Davenport than I am Ruiz. Ruiz has rounded into form, especially for a guy who was originally drafted to be a center and just wasn't good enough to supplant McCoy, who has become one of the best in the NFL (and frankly has an argument to be the best after what the offense became with him out).

 

[504gks]

I'm more upset about Davenport than I am Ruiz. Ruiz has rounded into form, especially for a guy who was originally drafted to be a center and just wasn't good enough to supplant McCoy, who has become one of the best in the NFL (and frankly has an argument to be the best after what the offense became with him out).

Ireland needs to go

 

[RaginCajun83]

Ireland needs to go

Doesn’t Ireland answer to Loomis, if that’s the case Loomis should be the one gone. It won’t happen though

 

[Merl]

I'm more upset about Davenport than I am Ruiz. Ruiz has rounded into form, especially for a guy who was originally drafted to be a center and just wasn't good enough to supplant McCoy, who has become one of the best in the NFL (and frankly has an argument to be the best after what the offense became with him out).

Ruiz was a covid year victim. He had no real off season his rookie year so he had no chance to beat out McCoy for starting at center so he was moved to guard.

 

[SweetT]

Ruiz was a covid year victim. He had no real off season his rookie year so he had no chance to beat out McCoy for starting at center so he was moved to guard.

Didn’t SP say the plan was to draft Ruiz and move McCoy to guard? I vaguely remember that

 

[solarbear88]

Afraid to draft a QB.

 

[blackjack]

Didn’t SP say the plan was to draft Ruiz and move McCoy to guard? I vaguely remember that

Yep. For some reason they thought McCoy should move to guard so they picked Ruiz to be the center.

 

[Saint KayBee]

Yep. For some reason they thought McCoy should move to guard so they picked Ruiz to be the center.

McCoy primarily played guard at aTm.

The 2019 Saints signed Nick Easton after Max Unger retired, with plans to play him at C. It’s possible they were planning to shop Armstead, who had missed six games and didn’t finish two others in both 2017 and 2018, and move Peat to LT as his rookie contract drew to a close. That would have been McCoy’s opening at LG, leaving an OL of Peat-McCoy-Easton-Warford-Ramczyk.

With Armstead remaining in the mix then playing 15/16 games, Peat never moved outside. Easton didn’t win the job, but then Warford was let go. Drafting Ruiz in 2020 to move McCoy to LG would have given Peat-Armstead-Ruiz-McCoy-Ramczyk as the plan, but Covid-19 messed that up so they rolled with McCoy at C and slotted Ruiz at RG.

If this all checks out, it looks like their plan was mainly marred by circumstance.