Saints met with top QB prospect Cam Ward; Cam Ward: “It would be a dream of mine to play for the Saints” [Saints inquired about trading up for Cam]

[DerrickB]

It's not even April yet. Lol

 

[TenTwo]

Are we taking about how the Saints have gone from 200:1 odds of drafting first overall 4 days ago to today they are listed at 26:1?

 

[Scott B]

I reported 9/40/71/next year's 2nd or 9/40/next year's first round pick. I'd assume Carr would be in the mix as well. I think the Titans like Ward and may now are zeroing in on him as their guy but that certainly was not the case the last month or so as they really have wanted Abdul Carter. Because this QB class isn't last year's and Ward isn't seen to be the same level of prospect that Bryce Young was, the cost to move up is considered lower. However, I've always maintained I highly doubt TEN does the deal because moving to 9 takes them out of the range of Carter or Hunter which is something I'm 99% sure they don't want to do.

But premium picks are just that... they are premium until they become players and then they are... Payton Turner? Davenport? Penning?

I’m in agreement with Adam here. Probably not gonna happen but if they swing for the fences, you take your chances on a franchise QB. They haven’t done it in 53 years. They can build around a QB on a rookie contract with free agency considering their cap will clear up in the next few years.

 

[Hubig]

The Brandon Cooks signing makes no sense to me unless you're moving on from either Shaheed or Olave soon. They're not your 6'3+ big body contest catches guys.

 

[SoggyBottomBoy]

The one thing that could make the cost reasonable enough is either including Olave in a trade with the Titans or trading Olave to the Pats to move up to #4 and then moving from #4 to #1. But that will depend on how the Titans or the Pats feel about Olave's injury history. Carr could have been a good piece to a trade with the Titans to reduce the draft pick cost, but I don't think we can absorb the cap hit of a pre-June 1 trade.

Since you posted this, the Pats signed Diggs.

As for Ward, I hear what AdamWest is selling, I'm just grappling with if this is "the guy" to do it for. But then again, I'll admit that I thought the Chiefs did us a favor by jumping ahead for Mahomes. Also, selfishly, I enjoy the draft and it sucks to not have number one picks. I know, if Ward is the real deal, it will be worth it.

I guess if they do it, I'll be disappointed, but I'll Immediately go with it like I always do. Can't change it at that point, anyway.

 

[ravenblade23x]

If I was Tennessee and the Saints where offering anything in the neighborhood of 2 1st's and 2 2nd's along with say Olave, I would be all over it. Sure play coy and try and maybe sweeten the deal, but you need a crazy high projection on Ward to pass up a haul like that.

Giving up that much in the draft rarely works out, but it would be exciting if the Saints did it and who knows maybe they get lucky and Ward is that guy.

 

[Hubig]

According to this guy, the Saints moved up in the odds to draft cam ward.

 

[DSnfla]

Yet the Chiefs were a great example of a team trading up to get “their guy” at QB. A guy that wasn’t considered a “generational talent” at QB, but one with many traits they liked and great production in college. Certainly some parallels to Ward. They traded their 2017 first, 2018 first, and a 2017 third to jump ahead of the Saints to get Mahomes.

Yup and they were a multi playoff team in the yrs before Mahomes. My point is that their team was good before they traded up to get Mahomes making the impact of trading away those picks a lot less if they needed those picks to upgrade the team

 

[DSnfla]

I agree that the team needs to stop drafting premium picks on the lines. Just last year, before the draft, I literally posted how the good/great teams have mid/late rd picks on their OLine and even UDFAs as well. Listed all of the rounds their players were selected. Still got pushback. We have wasted so many opportunities at BPA. Too many on here talks about the “cloud” of players, to justify picking the need portion of the cloud. That’s not how drafting is supposed to be. You draft the guy who is the better of the players, even if they are in a cloud. It should be simple, but it hasn’t been for our FO

Yes some of the best OLs have lower picks as starters but there may be only 1 later pick in the bunch, they are mostly filled with 1st and 2nd rnd picks even if they were not their own picks. Just because you miss on 1st rnd picks on the OL and DL does not mean the need goes away. Do you take less of a % pick trying to fill the need?

 

[DSnfla]

Ding ding ding - thank you!

That was not my point, KC was a good team BEFORE they traded up to get Mahomes. A multi playoff team. They did not have as many needs as we do. Therefore the picks that were traded to get Mahomes did not have the impact on upgrading the team as much as if we were to trade say 2#1s and 2#2s and maybe Olave to move up to get Ward

I think it's much better strategy to if Carter , Tet and Graham are gone, we trade back if we can and take Warren. We build the TEAM. Then next yr when the QB prospects look to be much better we try and get the franchise QB next yr.

 

[DSnfla]

The Brandon Cooks signing makes no sense to me unless you're moving on from either Shaheed or Olave soon. They're not your 6'3+ big body contest catches guys.

With the injury history of both Olave and Shaheed it makes perfect sense to sign Cooks

 

[StudioSaint]

Y’all need some kind of reality drug if you think. We are going to waste multiple picks

I'm always letting typos get by, so this is not a criticism or calling out. I just really got a great laugh out of taking the typo at face value.

"Y’all need some kind of reality drug if you think." No truer words can be spoken about the times we live in.

 

[StudioSaint]

Titans have lowered their original cost. Ward @ his pro day having words w/ Titans Brass “sealing the deal” the Titans setting up a private workout.

They aren’t sold on him.

Rather go to a team that is.

I don't know what the Titans are thinking, but Schefter is reporting that the Titan's asking price will go up and others are reporting that the Titan's media content team was at Ward's workout recording him.

 

[SigFreudianSlip]

Are we taking about how the Saints have gone from 200:1 odds of drafting first overall 4 days ago to today they are listed at 26:1?

I don't know what the Titans are thinking, but Schefter is reporting that the Titan's asking price will go up and others are reporting that the Titan's media content team was at Ward's workout recording him.

Yep, Sportscenter just said the price has gone up after his pro day. “Yesterday’s price is not today’s price.”
Per their anchor just now.

 

[DerrickB]