Saints Need an Offensive Weapon (2 Viewers)

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tyler735 said:
A decent chunk of the best WR’s in the league in recent years were 5th year seniors. It’s a nonstarter of an argument. Either the guy is a good prospect or he’s not. The 5th year aspect really has no relevance.
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The VAST majority were not. Being a 5th year senior gives you a ridiculous advantage as a collegiate athlete. Does it mean they won't pan out? No. Nobody is saying that.

Just that it adds a degree of difficulty to their scouting.

A great example of this is Xavier Legette out of SC last year. He looked like a man amongst boys in college and not nearly as impressive in the NFL.
 
St. Geezy said:
Their OL is very overmatched. May be tough sledding for him all night.

Not expecting a vintage Jeanty night.
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Their QB has been running for his life…I keep checking to see that they are the #3 team in the Nation but I’m not seeing much of that so far.
 
WhoDat?DrewDat said:
The VAST majority were not. Being a 5th year senior gives you a ridiculous advantage as a collegiate athlete. Does it mean they won't pan out? No. Nobody is saying that.

Just that it adds a degree of difficulty to their scouting.
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Not really, either they are good or they aren’t. The vast majority of redshirt sophomores, juniors, and seniors aren’t good NFL players either.

As I mentioned in my initial response. With the transfer rule changes, NIL, and Covid seasons. Any sort of pattern you may have thought was there no longer will exist in the same fashion going forward with the significant changes in college football in rules in recent years. As there are likely going to be way more of these players staying longer in college.

There are just so many recent examples of 5th year seniors doing well that I’d be shocked if scouts even really give it much thought at this point. Could see maybe at RB where the shelf life is so short, but outside of that it’s not going to sway my opinion of a guy like Tre Harris at all.
 
WhoDat?DrewDat said:
I don't think there are any "Jeanty haters" just people who see we have more holes to fill than RB which is a low priority position.
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I get there's a lot of holes to fill, but this team is nowhere near being any kind of contender. Throwing a bunch of darts at needs probably isn't gonna help us now or in the future. The time to take our medicine and part of that is BPA. Jeanty is a likely candidate at 10

Plus, this doesn't really look like a draft where many teams are gonna want to sacrifice trade capital to move up so I doubt we'll be moving back much, especially early.
 
St. Geezy said:
Yep. Jeanty haters are about to have a field day.

Hopefully he has some magic in him.
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I don't think I'm close to a Jeanty hater, but if he doesn't produce at least a few electric plays, even behind an overmatched OL, I'm not sure he should be a top 10 pick. I mean, the Mountain West isn't the Big 10. He didn't exactly play against a murderers row of defenses. Even if he doesn't make plays against Penn State, I still think he's not doubt a 1st round talent, but I'm not sure he's the kind of game changer RB that would justify a top 10 pick.
 
jboss said:
I'm just here for the laughable kneejerk reactions to Jeanty one quarter into the game.
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Because I never watch this guy…(check my location)

I’ve watched him plenty and he’s a great player…but I need the Combine/Pro Day numbers to see if he is a top 10 player in the draft. And if you’re a running back, you need to be the best player in the draft to be taken in the top 10.
 
TenTwo said:
Because I never watch this guy…(check my location)

I’ve watched him plenty and he’s a great player…but I need the Combine/Pro Day numbers to see if he is a top 10 player in the draft. And if you’re a running back, you need to be the best player in the draft to be taken in the top 10.
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True combine will shake up the projected draft order, for better or worse. I've watched a good bit of him this year and think he'll put up a really good combine. Record shmecord, he's the real deal.
 
tyler735 said:
Not really, either they are good or they aren’t. The vast majority of redshirt sophomores, juniors, and seniors aren’t good NFL players either.

As I mentioned in my initial response. With the transfer rule changes, NIL, and Covid seasons. Any sort of pattern you may have thought was there no longer will exist in the same fashion going forward with the significant changes in college football in rules in recent years. As there are likely going to be way more of these players staying longer in college.

There are just so many recent examples of 5th year seniors doing well that I’d be shocked if scouts even really give it much thought at this point. Could see maybe at RB where the shelf life is so short, but outside of that it’s not going to sway my opinion of a guy like Tre Harris at all.
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I think you're missing the point entirely.

5th year senior doesn't mean anyone is undraftable or should sway your opinion. Just that it adds a degree of difficulty to scouting a prospect because they have a significant advantage.
 
kennydfresh said:
I want Tyler Warren and he will be my pick until the draft. I'm standing 10 toes on business with dude.
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Ten toes on business?! Well butter my butt and call me a biscuit!

We could use a weapon at TE
 
WhoDat?DrewDat said:
Using the top 10 offenses as an example is silly because they have weapons outside of their run game, we do not.

Our WR/TE group wouldn't make the roster of these teams. We have absolutely nobody who is a threat to make a play.

Defenses are just selling out against the run against us because *checks notes* Kevin Austin, Deonte Pettis, and JJ are our receiving threats.

AK is our only positive weapon on offense and is paid to be a bell cow back. Drafting another RB would be god awful asset management.
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I disagree, Olave and Shaheed make almost all of the rosters of the top 10 offenses in the league. They might not be a #1 WR but Olave would easy be a #2 but they make the rosters
 

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