Saints planned to interview Mike McCarthy; McCarthy didn’t garner enough interest from Saints and will take a year off (4 Viewers)

[Rexman100]

Ok. What is this a riddle? Apparently, no one has real inside info.

 

[St. Widge]

Ok. What is this a riddle? Apparently, no one has real inside info.

That's just the T-P repackaging the information in the Aaron Glenn thread from Josiah Anderson.

 

[Hedon James]

Saban is a class by himself. In college.
The vast majority of college coaches from Wilkerson to Devine to Holtz to Saban to Meyer are failures. And usually epic failures.

you left out probably the biggest epic failure of all....Steve Spurrier.

But Dick Vermeil (UCLA), Bill Walsh (Stanford), Jimmy Johnson (Miami), and Jon Robinson (USC) might tell you something different. Even Barry Switzer (Oklahoma) may want to have some words. A Lombardi is a Lombardi, no matter how it was obtained, IMO.

 

[Clintonrebel]

12-5, 12-5, 12-5 and then one down year. Payton had three straight losing seasons mid-way through his term. They both have one Super Bowl ring and a history of laying eggs in the playoffs. I won't be disappointed with this guy, its hard to argue that he is not Payton's equal.

 

[Saint Jack]

you left out probably the biggest epic failure of all....Steve Spurrier.

But Dick Vermeil (UCLA), Bill Walsh (Stanford), Jimmy Johnson (Miami), and Jon Robinson (USC) might tell you something different. Even Barry Switzer (Oklahoma) may want to have some words. A Lombardi is a Lombardi, no matter how it was obtained, IMO.

Out of the list you gave, Vermiel and Walsh already had significant NFL experience.
They were NFL guys taking a pit stop at college.
JJ is the one outlier in terms of a CFB coach turning pro.

 

[Mr. Coach Klein]

There are plenty of really good well-moderated reddit communities there. While there's a lot of trash, you have some control over the content you want to see so imo it's better than some of the other social media apps. Ymmv tho.

'Good' 'well-moderated' 'reddit'. LMAO!

 

[Mr. Coach Klein]

And Brady was Allen’s QB coach for his two worst interception seasons of his career, excluding his rookie year. Perhaps a change in QB coach is what made the difference for Allen’s interceptions.

The idea that Brady took the Bills offense to a new level is just false since the Buffalo offense has been one of the best for several years now. DVOA ranks by year:

2020 - 4th (Daboll)
2021 - 9th (Daboll)
2022 - 2nd (Dorsey)
2023 - 3rd (Dorsey/Brady)
2024 - 2nd (Brady)

Brady went to Carolina and failed, just like Kellen Moore went to the Chargers and failed. Both coaches got another opportunity with a much better roster, and those rosters got their names added to the HC shortlist.

Where do you get DVOA now? FootballOutsiders was shut down.

 

[DaveXA]

'Good' 'well-moderated' 'reddit'. LMAO!

Hey man. Suit yourself. You don't have to use it. There actually are some that exist even if you don't believe it, but you do you. Like I stated in the post, ymmv.

 

[Rexman100]

Listen to Ben Johnson talk about the importance of an elite QB which is required for success in todays NFL.

 

[St. Geezy]

Saban is a class by himself. In college.
The vast majority of college coaches from Wilkerson to Devine to Holtz to Saban to Meyer are failures. And usually epic failures.

This is a different version of the same debate I had with someone over SB winning coaches going elsewhere…

Most head coaches fail. To extrapolate out a certain segment of those failures and say they failed “because of X background” isn’t fair and ignores that fact.

 

[No2DC]

Ok. What is this a riddle? Apparently, no one has real inside info.

Is that news? Obviously, all signs point toward the Jets.

 

[No2DC]

Listen to Ben Johnson talk about the importance of an elite QB which is required for success in todays NFL.

But, but, we have Carr and Ratt. Why isn't that attractive?

 

[Saint Jack]

This is a different version of the same debate I had with someone over SB winning coaches going elsewhere…

Most head coaches fail. To extrapolate out a certain segment of those failures and say they failed “because of X background” isn’t fair and ignores that fact.

It’s not just a certain group.
It’s amateur coaches thinking they’re professionals.

 

[St. Geezy]

It’s not just a certain group.
It’s amateur coaches thinking they’re professionals.

They’re not “Amateur coaches.” They’re ball coaches that are coaching amateurs.

There’s a difference.