Update Saints to interview Mike McCarthy in middle of this week, 1/26-2/1 per Pelissero [Underhill: McCarthy would have to be the current favorite] (28 Viewers)

[DSnfla]

Great post. Some people just don’t understand how hard of an accomplishment winning the SB is.

Having a great team that’s consistently in the playoffs and competing is the goal. Winning the Super Bowl is the dream.

I’d be curious to know how many SB winning head coaches have gone to other teams and have flat-out failed. I bet that list is fairly short.

I know Hank Stram and Mike Ditka happened to be two of them here due to circumstances, but I bet most of these guys are going to other teams and immediately demonstrating that they know how to put together a winning program and at least get those teams competing at a high level fairly quickly.

Guys that have won Super Bowls are the real deal.

Stram had the equivalent of Tepper for an owner , only Mecom was worse. He didn't give Hank enough time, another yr or 2 and we would have been the thick of things. Ditka got the credit for Buddy Ryans SB, it was his D that won it

 

[St. Geezy]

Stram had the equivalent of Tepper for an owner , only Mecom was worse. He didn't give Hank enough time, another yr or 2 and we would have been the thick of things. Ditka got the credit for Buddy Ryans SB, it was his D that won it

Yep. I was going to add exactly what you stated here but didn’t want to make the post any longer. Those were the circumstances I was referring to. Guys like those two are anomalies that just so happened to occur in New Orleans, and I am sure the naysayers will point to it.

 

[DSnfla]

Based on what?

What if Mickey and the group doing the interviews think the team would quickly “check out” on Brady or that he would struggle mightily to motivate a room full of millionaire alphas, especially after seeing that sort of affect with DA?

You’re not there in the room. The only thing you have to go on is possible MVP Josh Allen and the Bills’ offensive stat sheet and Brady happening to be calling the plays of one of if not the greatest, most talented college offenses ever assembled.

There’s more to making a HC hire than that.

Don’t be surprised if and when Brady has gone another cycle without being hired to lead an organization. He just may not be the guy you think he is.

Or that Brady just is not ready. He jumped at the Car OC job right after the LSU natty. He didn't even get some play calling experience when he bombs he takes a job being a QB coach a position he never played and coaching an already elite QB. Then when Dorsey get canned to appease the folks that wanted McDermott's head naturally they promote the QB coach. Brady's tweaks for Allen? Run the ball more

Brady seems to put the cart before the horse. He takes the promotion before he gains enough experience to handle the job at hand. My guess is he'll do the same thing with the HC position, strike while the iron is hot and not worry if the iron is hot enough to be a success

 

[St. Geezy]

Or that Brady just is not ready. He jumped at the Car OC job right after the LSU natty. He didn't even get some play calling experience when he bombs he takes a job being a QB coach a position he never played and coaching an already elite QB. Then when Dorsey get canned to appease the folks that wanted McDermott's head naturally they promote the QB coach. Brady's tweaks for Allen? Run the ball more

Brady seems to put the cart before the horse. He takes the promotion before he gains enough experience to handle the job at hand. My guess is he'll do the same thing with the HC position, strike while the iron is hot and not worry if the iron is hot enough to be a success

Agreed. I think he could very well be brilliant and I don’t know whether or not he’s ready at this stage maturity/leadership wise, but as each hiring cycle passes without him being hired despite his on-paper accomplishments tells me he’s possibly not.

We have to trust that the guys doing the interviewing are evaluating that. If I am interviewing someone for a HC, I know I would be.

I would literally be wanting the guy I am interviewing to be imposing in that setting and to even make ME feel somewhat small and like I am being led to a degree, and I am not sure if Brady is that guy.

I mean, people made fun of DA’s speeches the last few years…what if we are sensing that one of the fan favorite candidates like Brady would have the same delivery, and we have placed a premium on fixing that?

What if we have contacted coaches he’s coached with and players he’s coached and have come away not impressed with what they had to say, even if they didn’t even trash him.

We just don’t know.

 

[sfidc3]

Brady seems to put the cart before the horse. He takes the promotion before he gains enough experience to handle the job at hand. My guess is he'll do the same thing with the HC position, strike while the iron is hot and not worry if the iron is hot enough to be a success

WTF is this nonsense above.....

Brady is handling the job at hand just fine, last I checked Allen has cut way down on the turnovers and if they win Sunday will be in the SB..... and how many young coaches routinely turn down promotions? Seems there is a reason he may be getting promotions, no?

And you continue to spread the BS about Brady discrediting the job he actually did at LSU while ignoring the fact that he received the Broyles award in 2019 given to the top assistant coach in college.....seems odd that he did so little but managed to get such an award....

Nobody knows if Brady is a leader of men yet, just like any other 1st time HC....It's a risk for sure but despite the BS you're spouting he has an impressive resume and is only 35 years old....

 

[44slayer]

WTF is this nonsense above.....

Brady is handling the job at hand just fine, last I checked Allen has cut way down on the turnovers and if they win Sunday will be in the SB..... and how many young coaches routinely turn down promotions? Seems there is a reason he may be getting promotions, no?

And you continue to spread the BS about Brady discrediting the job he actually did at LSU while ignoring the fact that he received the Broyles award in 2019 given to the top assistant coach in college.....seems odd that he did so little but managed to get such an award....

Nobody knows if Brady is a leader of men yet, just like any other 1st time HC....It's a risk for sure but despite the BS you're spouting he has an impressive resume and is only 35 years old....

Haaaaa! Nailed it.

Its unreal. I think he has 2 hats. 1 has names. The other has "defend" and "dont defend". Theres no rational explanation for most of it. He has spent the better part of 2 weeks telling us how ready Glenn is, who has never fielded a top half of the NFL defense.....while now poo pooing on a guy who has had far more success (albeit some hiccups) than Glenn has had as a DC.

I would like to know though.... how hot does iron need to be, to be a success. A way with words that one has.

 

[Rexman100]

Nick Saban wants to coach the NFL. Go get him Mickey!

 

[sfidc3]

Nick Saban wants to coach the NFL. Go get him Mickey!

His first go round was a disaster, he got full control in Miami and lasted 2 years......he did give us Drew Brees however.....

A big no thanks!!!!!!

 

[DaveXA]

Nick Saban wants to coach the NFL. Go get him Mickey!

Since people have been making age a thing, Saban is 73, McCarthy is 61. So....

 

[St. Geezy]

Nobody knows if Brady is a leader of men yet, just like any other 1st time HC....It's a risk for sure

You don’t think this part can be figured out through the interview and vetting process?

 

[Infoman]

Man... not sure about this "current favorite" stuff.... looking more like "whatever is left" at this point... Once again, the Saints will get "Their Guy" - By outsmarting everyone else and using the "process of elimination" method!

 

[Rouxble]

Brady is handling the job at hand just fine, last I checked Allen has cut way down on the turnovers and if they win Sunday will be in the SB

And Brady was Allen’s QB coach for his two worst interception seasons of his career, excluding his rookie year. Perhaps a change in QB coach is what made the difference for Allen’s interceptions.

The idea that Brady took the Bills offense to a new level is just false since the Buffalo offense has been one of the best for several years now. DVOA ranks by year:

2020 - 4th (Daboll)
2021 - 9th (Daboll)
2022 - 2nd (Dorsey)
2023 - 3rd (Dorsey/Brady)
2024 - 2nd (Brady)

Brady went to Carolina and failed, just like Kellen Moore went to the Chargers and failed. Both coaches got another opportunity with a much better roster, and those rosters got their names added to the HC shortlist.

 

[Saint Jack]

Nick Saban wants to coach the NFL. Go get him Mickey!

He already failed at the pro level.

 

[Saint Jack]

But I say, just hire MM.
He’s a solid HC and will give the franchise some much needed stability.

 

[No2DC]

But I say, just hire MM.
He’s a solid HC and will give the franchise some much needed stability.

That's basically the rationale at this point.