Sci Fi Books (4 Viewers)

Has anyone ever read the Chung Kuo series by David Wingate?

Another book that’s been unread on my book shelf since Daddy Bush was president
 
The Year of Reading Sci Fi heads into the Fourth Quarter and provides a much-needed distraction from football, national, and world events.

(1) The Expanse (9 books) by James A Corey. Swashbuckling heroes take on Earth politicians, the Martian military, asteroid belt terrorists, and aliens. Epic, fun, profound, and fantastic - characters, plot, "realism" all top notch.

(2) Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy (5 books) by Douglas Adams. More a study in absurdity than traditional sci fi but cannot leave it off the list.

(3) The Black Cloud by Ed Hoyle. Earth's scientists race to understand an approaching darkness. Written by the real-world astrophysics legend who coined "The Big Bang" (in derision). Old fashioned but concise and pretty realistic for sci fi.

(4) Hyperion (2+ books) by Dan Simmons. A diverse group tell their stories a la Canterbury Tales as they travel through space and time while battling a mysterious monster. Excellent world-building in book #1; book #2 is fine but just more of the same plot.

(5) Three Body Problem (3 books) by Cixin Liu. Aliens are coming and they are smarter than us. Fresh idea, good writing, but the Chinese names lose me. The sequels feature a very dark study of intergalactic game theory.

(6) Hail Mary by Andy Weir. A spaceman travels to discover what is eating the sun and makes a new friend. Good premise, good writing.

(7) Dune (2+ books) by Frank Herbert. Classic. A chosen-one boy helps desert natives defeat a space empire through omniscience, omnipotence, and drugs. Epic world-building and genre-defining elements. Book #2 and further books delve into political theory.

(8) Solaris by Stanislaw Lem. A psychologist visits a spooky space station above a spooky ocean-planet that appears to be a conscious brain.

(9) Blindsight by Peter Watts. A team of mental misfits goes to meet and understand an alien ship. Clever take on consciousness in context of first-contact story.

(10) Cat’s Cradle by Kurt Vonnegut. More psychedelic than sci-fi but they call it sci fi. Whatever the category, a fun read.

(11) Children of Time by Adrian Tschaikovsky. A futuristic planet-wide evolution experiment goes wrong and is discovered centuries later. Not very “realistic” (even as sci fi) but a good read.

(12) Gods of Mercy (1+ books) by James A. Comey. Humans dropped on a planet with different DNA struggle against two competing alien invaders. Perhaps a continuation of The Expanse.

(13) The Wall by John Lanchester. England builds a wall to exclude climate-change refugees. Kind of young-adulty but excellent premise.

(14) The Forever War by Joe Haldeman. A human space warrior struggles with the challenges of fighting in space-time and struggles more with the changes on Earth while away each campaign (by a Vietnam vet with obvious parallels).

(15) Ender's Game (2+ books) by Orson Scott Card. Boy plays games, beats aliens. Fun little book, but pretty young-adulty. Sequel is deeper.

(16) Ball Lightning by Cixin Liu. A pacifist scientist fascinated by ball lightning uses the Chinese military in order to study it (and it uses him).

(17) The Sparrow. Earth discovers alien life and the Vatican races the UN to colonize it. Good premise, poor writing.

(18) Long Way To A Small Angry Planet. Woke in Space. Fun but forced liberal worldbuilding, and dialogue tries too hard to be clever. There are more books in the series but I will not read them.

(19) Cloud Cuckoo Land. Time-bending myth-bending story(ies) about saving civilization from Turks and Climate Change. "Intellectual" but really just OK.

(20) Red Rising. Young man mining on Mars is unhappy. Lost interest - seems to be a Young Adult thing.

(21) Station Eleven. Thespians in the Apocalypse. Lost interest.

(22) Resisters. Rebels turn to baseball to resist climate-change totalitarian government. Lost interest.

(23) Startide Rising. Sarcastic dolphins in space. Lost interest.
 
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I personally love the entire series of Dune books. Dune Messiah and Children of Dune are very good. But it gets very weird in God Emperor of Dune and that continues through Chapterhouse: Dune. I personally don't mind the weirdness but it turns some people off. But, beyond the original book, there are many side stories and prequels done by Frank Herbert's son, Brian Herbert and Kevin J. Anderson that don't include the weirdness of the later Herbert books. The Herbert/Anderson books aren't quite as "deep" as what Frank Herbert wrote, but it's still a good set of stories in a very interesting universe.

If you are looking for hard Sci-Fi, Alastair Reynolds. For more space opera stuff, check on the Empire of Man Series by David Weber and John Ringo. Also the Safehold series by David Weber.

I'm also a huge fan of Neil Stephenson. He crosses lots of genres but his most famous stuff if mostly Cyber Punk. i.e. Snow Crash, The Diamond Age. But, I'm a big fan of all of his work including the Baroque Cycle series, Cryptonomicon, Anathem, and Seveneves.

Edit: I also recommend the entire Altered Carbon series by Richard Morgan. Don't let the Netflix series keep you away. It was mostly nothing like the books and completely changed the story and the characters involved. There is a long story being told, but each of the three books are very different. Really a fun read and a fun world that was built.
I'd add to the hard Sci-Fi list Fred Saberhagen's Berserker series. Also Empire of the East by Saberhagen, and Keith Laumer's Bolo series.
 
Now tying off the thread with new Fourth Quarter entires and final rankings. In 2025 I will be reading some other genre.

(1) The Expanse (9 books) by James A Corey. In the year 2350, swashbuckling space heroes take on Earth politicians, the Martian military, asteroid belt terrorists, and aliens. Epic, fun, profound, and fantastic - characters, plot, "realism" all top notch.

(2) Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy (5 books) by Douglas Adams. More a study in absurdity than traditional sci fi but cannot leave it off the list. A top-ten book in any category.

(3) The Black Cloud by Ed Hoyle. Earth's scientists race to understand an approaching darkness. Written by the real-world astrophysics legend who coined "The Big Bang" (in derision). Old fashioned but the plot and writing are tight and the concept is a realistic first-contact with an alien very different from us.

(4) Solaris by Stanislaw Lem. A psychologist visits a spooky space station above a spooky ocean-planet that appears to be one giant conscious brain. The two endeavor to understand each other, the latter with more success. A mysterious first-contact story. Written in Communist Poland, there is an ominous existential feel to the story.

(5) Dune (2+ books) by Frank Herbert. Classic. A chosen-one boy helps desert natives defeat a space empire through omniscience, omnipotence, and drugs. Epic world-building and genre-defining elements. Book #2 and further books delve into political theory.

(6) Three Body Problem (3 books) by Cixin Liu. Aliens are coming and they are smarter than us. Fresh idea, good writing. The sequels feature a very dark study of intergalactic game theory in a first-contact context.

(7) A Canticle for Leibowitz by Walter Miller. A 30th Century monastery in Colorado gathers and protects books after a 20th Century nuclear war made the few survivors hate books and attack book-readers. Good characters and great writing.

(8) Rendevous with Rama by Arthur C Clark. In 2130 Earth sends a ship to investigate an alien vessel as it circles the sun. Fairly realistic for a SciFi book. Good action and quick pace as the crew explores the mysterious ship and attempts first-contact with its crew.

(9) Culture (series) by Iain Banks. Set in a utopian future when the computers that run society are apparently benevolent, omniscient, and omnipotent – and have a robust sense of humor. A nice break from the usual distopian AI-wary books in the genre. Consider Phlebas (the first in the series) is weak but can be skipped; Player of Games is a fun story of a champion gamer sent to challenge a potentially hostile empire at its own game.

(10) Hail Mary by Andy Weir. A spaceman travels to discover what is eating the sun and makes a new friend. Good “first contact” premise, good writing.

(11) Hyperion (2+ books) by Dan Simmons. A diverse group tell their stories a la Canterbury Tales as they travel through space and time while battling a mysterious monster. Excellent multiple-perspective narrative and world-building in book #1; book #2 is fine but just more of the same plot.

(12) A Scanner Darkly by Philip K. Dick. A detective gets hooked on a brain-splitting drug he was investigating which prevents him from knowing when the investigation focuses on himself. He has a futuristic mask that prevents the police department from knowing the two are the same person. This is more about drug use than about science, but the trippy dialogue makes it worthwhile.

(13) Foundation (series) by Isaac Asimov. A psychologist predicts the end of the Galactic Empire. His successors run an intellectual “foundation” that preserves knowledge, minimizes the chaos, and uses its scientific advantage to cow and control the nearby militaristic space kingdoms.

(14) Mote In God’s Eye by Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle. The human empire sends a ship with a large and diverse cast to conduct a first contact meeting with aliens; a first-contact story with aliens who are realistically different from humans.

(15) Blindsight by Peter Watts. A team of mental misfits goes to meet and understand an alien ship. Clever take on consciousness in context of first-contact story.

(16) The Wall by John Lanchester. England builds a wall to exclude climate-change refugees. Two young heroes are drafted to man the wall and fight off immigrants. Kind of young-adulty but excellent premise and good story.

(17) City by Clifford Simak. When humans tire of the earth and move to Jupiter, intelligent dogs take over the earth, and eventually regard humans as a myth. Told in the form of Aesop-like fables presented and disputed by learned academic authorities such as Rover and Bounce.

(18) Cat’s Cradle by Kurt Vonnegut. More psychedelic than sci-fi but they call it sci fi. Whatever the category, a fun read.

(19) The Dispossessed by Ursula LeGuin. An physicist from a socialist-anarchist moon finds intrigue and culture clash with capitalist and communist civilizations when visiting its home planet.

(20) Shadow and Claw (series) by Gene Wolfe. An unreliable narrator guides you through a fantasy world that you gradually realize is a future earth where old tech functions like magic. A long slog and difficult slog but it has good moments and a worthwhile grand narrative.

(21) The Wandering Earth by Cixin Liu. A set of short stories. In the first story, humanity must live underground and propel the Earth away from the sun before it explodes.

(22) Gods of Mercy by James A. Comey. Humans dropped on a planet with different DNA struggle against two competing alien invaders. Begins a new series to follow The Expanse.

(23) The Forever War by Joe Haldeman. A human space warrior struggles with the challenges of fighting in space-time and struggles more with the changes on Earth while away each campaign (by a Vietnam vet with obvious parallels).

(24) Cloud Atlas by David Mitchell. Stories involving connected characters (dating from 1850s Pacific islands, 1930s Belgium, modern London, futuristic Korea, and post-apocalyptic Hawaii) are layered so you read half of each story before finishing in reverse order. Great narrative idea but some stories are better than others and the connections could have been developed more. The first half is fun but it ends with a big “so-what.”

(25) Carpathians by Paul Dixon. Spacefaring and corporate espionage in the 30th Century. A decent story with good characters but nothing profound here.

(26) Children of Time by Adrian Tschaikovsky. A futuristic planet-wide evolution experiment goes wrong and is discovered centuries later. Not very “realistic” (even as sci fi) but a good read.

(27) Ender's Game by Orson Scott Card. Boy plays games, beats aliens. Fun little book, but pretty young-adulty. Sequel is deeper.

(28) Ball Lightning by Cixin Liu. A pacifist scientist fascinated by ball lightning uses the Chinese military in order to study it (and it uses him).

(29) The Sparrow. Earth discovers alien life and the Vatican races the UN to colonize it. Good first-contact premise, and good narrative use of time-differential affecting those who travel at lightspeed. Overall, the premise is wasted through dumb execution and poor writing.

(30) Long Way To A Small Angry Planet. Woke in Space. Fun but forced liberal world-building, and dialogue tries too hard to be clever. There are more books in the series but I will not read them.

(31) Cloud Cuckoo Land. Time-bending myth-bending story(ies) about saving civilization from Turks and Climate Change. "Intellectual" but really just OK.

(32) Red Rising. Young man mining on Mars is unhappy. Seems to be a Young-Adult thing. Lost interest, Did Not Finish.

(33) Station Eleven. Thespians in the Apocalypse. Lost interest, DNF.

(34) Resisters. Rebels turn to baseball to resist climate-change totalitarian government. Lost interest, DNF.

(35) Startide Rising. Sarcastic dolphins in space. Lost interest, DNF.
 
(7) A Canticle for Leibowitz by Walter Miller. A 30th Century monastery in Colorado gathers and protects books after a 20th Century nuclear war made the few survivors hate books and attack book-readers. Good characters and great writing.
I read this book in high school many years ago and had forgotten about it. I have it on my "to read" list now. Thanks for the reminder!
 
Now tying off the thread with new Fourth Quarter entires and final rankings. In 2025 I will be reading some other genre.

(1) The Expanse (9 books) by James A Corey. In the year 2350, swashbuckling space heroes take on Earth politicians, the Martian military, asteroid belt terrorists, and aliens. Epic, fun, profound, and fantastic - characters, plot, "realism" all top notch.

(2) Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy (5 books) by Douglas Adams. More a study in absurdity than traditional sci fi but cannot leave it off the list. A top-ten book in any category.

(3) The Black Cloud by Ed Hoyle. Earth's scientists race to understand an approaching darkness. Written by the real-world astrophysics legend who coined "The Big Bang" (in derision). Old fashioned but the plot and writing are tight and the concept is a realistic first-contact with an alien very different from us.

(4) Solaris by Stanislaw Lem. A psychologist visits a spooky space station above a spooky ocean-planet that appears to be one giant conscious brain. The two endeavor to understand each other, the latter with more success. A mysterious first-contact story. Written in Communist Poland, there is an ominous existential feel to the story.

(5) Dune (2+ books) by Frank Herbert. Classic. A chosen-one boy helps desert natives defeat a space empire through omniscience, omnipotence, and drugs. Epic world-building and genre-defining elements. Book #2 and further books delve into political theory.

(6) Three Body Problem (3 books) by Cixin Liu. Aliens are coming and they are smarter than us. Fresh idea, good writing. The sequels feature a very dark study of intergalactic game theory in a first-contact context.

(7) A Canticle for Leibowitz by Walter Miller. A 30th Century monastery in Colorado gathers and protects books after a 20th Century nuclear war made the few survivors hate books and attack book-readers. Good characters and great writing.

(8) Rendevous with Rama by Arthur C Clark. In 2130 Earth sends a ship to investigate an alien vessel as it circles the sun. Fairly realistic for a SciFi book. Good action and quick pace as the crew explores the mysterious ship and attempts first-contact with its crew.

(9) Culture (series) by Iain Banks. Set in a utopian future when the computers that run society are apparently benevolent, omniscient, and omnipotent – and have a robust sense of humor. A nice break from the usual distopian AI-wary books in the genre. Consider Phlebas (the first in the series) is weak but can be skipped; Player of Games is a fun story of a champion gamer sent to challenge a potentially hostile empire at its own game.

(10) Hail Mary by Andy Weir. A spaceman travels to discover what is eating the sun and makes a new friend. Good “first contact” premise, good writing.

(11) Hyperion (2+ books) by Dan Simmons. A diverse group tell their stories a la Canterbury Tales as they travel through space and time while battling a mysterious monster. Excellent multiple-perspective narrative and world-building in book #1; book #2 is fine but just more of the same plot.

(12) A Scanner Darkly by Philip K. Dick. A detective gets hooked on a brain-splitting drug he was investigating which prevents him from knowing when the investigation focuses on himself. He has a futuristic mask that prevents the police department from knowing the two are the same person. This is more about drug use than about science, but the trippy dialogue makes it worthwhile.

(13) Foundation (series) by Isaac Asimov. A psychologist predicts the end of the Galactic Empire. His successors run an intellectual “foundation” that preserves knowledge, minimizes the chaos, and uses its scientific advantage to cow and control the nearby militaristic space kingdoms.

(14) Mote In God’s Eye by Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle. The human empire sends a ship with a large and diverse cast to conduct a first contact meeting with aliens; a first-contact story with aliens who are realistically different from humans.

(15) Blindsight by Peter Watts. A team of mental misfits goes to meet and understand an alien ship. Clever take on consciousness in context of first-contact story.

(16) The Wall by John Lanchester. England builds a wall to exclude climate-change refugees. Two young heroes are drafted to man the wall and fight off immigrants. Kind of young-adulty but excellent premise and good story.

(17) City by Clifford Simak. When humans tire of the earth and move to Jupiter, intelligent dogs take over the earth, and eventually regard humans as a myth. Told in the form of Aesop-like fables presented and disputed by learned academic authorities such as Rover and Bounce.

(18) Cat’s Cradle by Kurt Vonnegut. More psychedelic than sci-fi but they call it sci fi. Whatever the category, a fun read.

(19) The Dispossessed by Ursula LeGuin. An physicist from a socialist-anarchist moon finds intrigue and culture clash with capitalist and communist civilizations when visiting its home planet.

(20) Shadow and Claw (series) by Gene Wolfe. An unreliable narrator guides you through a fantasy world that you gradually realize is a future earth where old tech functions like magic. A long slog and difficult slog but it has good moments and a worthwhile grand narrative.

(21) The Wandering Earth by Cixin Liu. A set of short stories. In the first story, humanity must live underground and propel the Earth away from the sun before it explodes.

(22) Gods of Mercy by James A. Comey. Humans dropped on a planet with different DNA struggle against two competing alien invaders. Begins a new series to follow The Expanse.

(23) The Forever War by Joe Haldeman. A human space warrior struggles with the challenges of fighting in space-time and struggles more with the changes on Earth while away each campaign (by a Vietnam vet with obvious parallels).

(24) Cloud Atlas by David Mitchell. Stories involving connected characters (dating from 1850s Pacific islands, 1930s Belgium, modern London, futuristic Korea, and post-apocalyptic Hawaii) are layered so you read half of each story before finishing in reverse order. Great narrative idea but some stories are better than others and the connections could have been developed more. The first half is fun but it ends with a big “so-what.”

(25) Carpathians by Paul Dixon. Spacefaring and corporate espionage in the 30th Century. A decent story with good characters but nothing profound here.

(26) Children of Time by Adrian Tschaikovsky. A futuristic planet-wide evolution experiment goes wrong and is discovered centuries later. Not very “realistic” (even as sci fi) but a good read.

(27) Ender's Game by Orson Scott Card. Boy plays games, beats aliens. Fun little book, but pretty young-adulty. Sequel is deeper.

(28) Ball Lightning by Cixin Liu. A pacifist scientist fascinated by ball lightning uses the Chinese military in order to study it (and it uses him).

(29) The Sparrow. Earth discovers alien life and the Vatican races the UN to colonize it. Good first-contact premise, and good narrative use of time-differential affecting those who travel at lightspeed. Overall, the premise is wasted through dumb execution and poor writing.

(30) Long Way To A Small Angry Planet. Woke in Space. Fun but forced liberal world-building, and dialogue tries too hard to be clever. There are more books in the series but I will not read them.

(31) Cloud Cuckoo Land. Time-bending myth-bending story(ies) about saving civilization from Turks and Climate Change. "Intellectual" but really just OK.

(32) Red Rising. Young man mining on Mars is unhappy. Seems to be a Young-Adult thing. Lost interest, Did Not Finish.

(33) Station Eleven. Thespians in the Apocalypse. Lost interest, DNF.

(34) Resisters. Rebels turn to baseball to resist climate-change totalitarian government. Lost interest, DNF.

(35) Startide Rising. Sarcastic dolphins in space. Lost interest, DNF.
Why would a nuclear war make people hate books?

Startide Rising has also been on my list since high school

14 by Peter Clines was great
 
Why would a nuclear war make people hate books?
Because science made the bombs, and intellectuals ran the governments that launched them. No books, no knowledge, no more nukes. Didn't say they were logical. Think of the kind of people who survive apocalypses - usually not big readers (e.g. Daryl Dixon). Anyway, it's a good premise for secret missions to find and save books.

Startide Rising has also been on my list since high school
You should have read it then, it is probably best for folks at that level. I saw some positive reviews but I just thought it was really bad.
14 by Peter Clines was great
Thanks!
 
14 is less sci fi and more Lost style weirdness in an apartment building

Loved every minute of it (listened to the audiobook)
 
The Year of Reading Sci Fi heads into the Fourth Quarter and provides a much-needed distraction from football, national, and world events.

(1) The Expanse (9 books) by James A Corey. Swashbuckling heroes take on Earth politicians, the Martian military, asteroid belt terrorists, and aliens. Epic, fun, profound, and fantastic - characters, plot, "realism" all top notch.

(2) Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy (5 books) by Douglas Adams. More a study in absurdity than traditional sci fi but cannot leave it off the list.

(3) The Black Cloud by Ed Hoyle. Earth's scientists race to understand an approaching darkness. Written by the real-world astrophysics legend who coined "The Big Bang" (in derision). Old fashioned but concise and pretty realistic for sci fi.

(4) Hyperion (2+ books) by Dan Simmons. A diverse group tell their stories a la Canterbury Tales as they travel through space and time while battling a mysterious monster. Excellent world-building in book #1; book #2 is fine but just more of the same plot.

(5) Three Body Problem (3 books) by Cixin Liu. Aliens are coming and they are smarter than us. Fresh idea, good writing, but the Chinese names lose me. The sequels feature a very dark study of intergalactic game theory.

(6) Hail Mary by Andy Weir. A spaceman travels to discover what is eating the sun and makes a new friend. Good premise, good writing.

(7) Dune (2+ books) by Frank Herbert. Classic. A chosen-one boy helps desert natives defeat a space empire through omniscience, omnipotence, and drugs. Epic world-building and genre-defining elements. Book #2 and further books delve into political theory.

(8) Solaris by Stanislaw Lem. A psychologist visits a spooky space station above a spooky ocean-planet that appears to be a conscious brain.

(9) Blindsight by Peter Watts. A team of mental misfits goes to meet and understand an alien ship. Clever take on consciousness in context of first-contact story.

(10) Cat’s Cradle by Kurt Vonnegut. More psychedelic than sci-fi but they call it sci fi. Whatever the category, a fun read.

(11) Children of Time by Adrian Tschaikovsky. A futuristic planet-wide evolution experiment goes wrong and is discovered centuries later. Not very “realistic” (even as sci fi) but a good read.

(12) Gods of Mercy (1+ books) by James A. Comey. Humans dropped on a planet with different DNA struggle against two competing alien invaders. Perhaps a continuation of The Expanse.

(13) The Wall by John Lanchester. England builds a wall to exclude climate-change refugees. Kind of young-adulty but excellent premise.

(14) The Forever War by Joe Haldeman. A human space warrior struggles with the challenges of fighting in space-time and struggles more with the changes on Earth while away each campaign (by a Vietnam vet with obvious parallels).

(15) Ender's Game (2+ books) by Orson Scott Card. Boy plays games, beats aliens. Fun little book, but pretty young-adulty. Sequel is deeper.

(16) Ball Lightning by Cixin Liu. A pacifist scientist fascinated by ball lightning uses the Chinese military in order to study it (and it uses him).

(17) The Sparrow. Earth discovers alien life and the Vatican races the UN to colonize it. Good premise, poor writing.

(18) Long Way To A Small Angry Planet. Woke in Space. Fun but forced liberal worldbuilding, and dialogue tries too hard to be clever. There are more books in the series but I will not read them.

(19) Cloud Cuckoo Land. Time-bending myth-bending story(ies) about saving civilization from Turks and Climate Change. "Intellectual" but really just OK.

(20) Red Rising. Young man mining on Mars is unhappy. Lost interest - seems to be a Young Adult thing.

(21) Station Eleven. Thespians in the Apocalypse. Lost interest.

(22) Resisters. Rebels turn to baseball to resist climate-change totalitarian government. Lost interest.

(23) Startide Rising. Sarcastic dolphins in space. Lost interest.
some of my favorite books on that list. - expanse series, hyperion, three body problem, dune, red rising, station eleven, ender's game.
 
14 is less sci fi and more Lost style weirdness in an apartment building

Loved every minute of it (listened to the audiobook)
Just put it on my list
I’d just finished Mercy if Gods right before break and have The Martian queued up and ready when my commute starts back
14 might be next
 
Just put it on my list
I’d just finished Mercy if Gods right before break and have The Martian queued up and ready when my commute starts back
14 might be next
Audiobooks?

If so there are 2 versions on the Martian

One by RC Bray, one of my favorites, I love his narration on the Martian

The other is by Wil Wheaton - haven’t listed to his Martian but he did Ready Player One also one of my favorites, he’s not a “great” narrator but picks books suited to his talents

I’d be very curious how his version compares to Bray
 

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