Sean Payton gives his opinion of Kellen Moore (Potential Saints HC Job) (37 Viewers)

[SystemShock]

So it's a tome?

Don't you come here with that fancy lingo...

 

[Madmarsha]

Don't you come here with that fancy lingo...

Not so fancy. I grew up with it.

 

[meily]

Let's not act like we did not see Payton walking out with Mrs. Benson for the New Orleans tribute.

 

[SystemShock]

Not so fancy. I grew up with it.

In my old age.. I typed the sentence, then wondered for a few seconds "what's the word for a very large book?'... then I said "screw it, large book it is"

 

[Noble Saint]

The man has been gone for going on four years and the Saints are in the same cap situation that they were in when he was still here.

Don’t you think that the cap situation would’ve improved after three offseason’s if he was the one at fault?

The Saints haven’t changed their salary cap strategy at all since he’s been gone, so perhaps that’s the reason Payton is no longer here. It’s possible that he didn’t want to be a part of these shenanigans that were only acceptable while Brees was still the QB. That’s right, Loomis and Co. kept this foolishness going by bringing in Derek Carr and sticking to win now mode with him at the helm.

People seem to not realize what a big deal Covid was to upsetting our cap situation and strategy. No one could’ve predicted that not only would the cap not keep steadily increasing, but suddenly decrease.

 

[RaisingTheBar]

This is no place to be telling the truth. We still have Mickey Loomis we can blame, c'mon man.

I mean Mickey is to blame for a lot of this, but anyone who thinks Payton didn’t have his hands in every decision is fooling themselves.

 

[RaisingTheBar]

The man has been gone for going on four years and the Saints are in the same cap situation that they were in when he was still here.

Don’t you think that the cap situation would’ve improved after three offseason’s if he was the one at fault?

The Saints haven’t changed their salary cap strategy at all since he’s been gone, so perhaps that’s the reason Payton is no longer here. It’s possible that he didn’t want to be a part of these shenanigans that were only acceptable while Brees was still the QB. That’s right, Loomis and Co. kept this foolishness going by bringing in Derek Carr and sticking to win now mode with him at the helm.I didn’t say Loomis isn’t to blame. He had a chance to hit the restart button when Payton was gone but wanted to keep the window open by signing Carr. That was a huge mistake. However if you don’t think that Payton caused the backlog of dead money and continuing to kick the can down the road you haven’t been paying attention.

The man has been gone for going on four years and the Saints are in the same cap situation that they were in when he was still here.

Don’t you think that the cap situation would’ve improved after three offseason’s if he was the one at fault?

The Saints haven’t changed their salary cap strategy at all since he’s been gone, so perhaps that’s the reason Payton is no longer here. It’s possible that he didn’t want to be a part of these shenanigans that were only acceptable while Brees was still the QB. That’s right, Loomis and Co. kept this foolishness going by bringing in Derek Carr and sticking to win now mode with him at the helm.

I didn’t say Loomis is blameless here. He had a chance to hit the restart button when Payton was gone but wanted to keep the window open by signing Carr. That was a huge mistake. However if you don’t think that Payton caused the backlog of dead money and continuing to kick the can down the road you haven’t been paying attention.

 

[RaisingTheBar]

Stop with that. Loomis controls the cap and continued that mess for 3 years after Sean was gone.

Loomis is responsible for DA/Carr yea no crap but Payton is absolutely responsible for the years and years of kicking the can down the road that added to what we’re dealing with today.

 

[Kingston]

Regardless if your conjecture is correct or not, it’s not immoral. As fans we have this incorrect assumption, that coaches should be loyal and take one for the team. And players should be loyal give home town discounts. But the reality is, there is no “loyalty”. There’s “opportunity”. Sean’s best opportunity was to stay with the Saints while Drew Brees was here. Afterwards, his best opportunity was the Miami /Brady situation. And that Dallas situation if true. And finally the Denver opportunity which he took. The fans value is only this, “this is a good fan base, they are loud when needed”. Thats the extent. It’s a cold and highly competitive atmosphere. You’re either all in, or you’re picked clean by the vultures. Which is today’s scenario, until we totally restart with KM. This isn’t Debbie downer, it’s reality.

I agree 100% with you in that it’s not immoral in any way to explore your options. This is America and everyone is free to do whatever is in their best interests, especially professionally and financially.

I find we as fans tend to forget that players, coaches and even front office types are actual real life human beings with the same hopes and aspirations that we all have. I find oftentimes we hold them to ridiculous standards that we would never apply to ourselves professionally.

Who is going into work tomorrow and volunteering to take a pay cut for the good of the office? Which one of us is going to completely ignore someone offering us a job with markedly more money and benefits out of a sense of loyalty?

 

[Rexman100]

I agree 100% with you in that it’s not immoral in any way to explore your options. This is America and everyone is free to do whatever is in their best interests, especially professionally and financially.

I find we as fans tend to forget that players, coaches and even front office types are actual real life human beings with the same hopes and aspirations that we all have. I find oftentimes we hold them to ridiculous standards that we would never apply to ourselves professionally.

Who is going into work tomorrow and volunteering to take a pay cut for the good of the office? Which one of us is going to completely ignore someone offering us a job with markedly more money and benefits out of a sense of loyalty?

This is why we shouldn’t be upset at a coach leaving. Just thankful that he guided the team, which we are fans of, temporarily, to the best achievement in the sport. He owes us fans nothing, and never had. It’s also a reason not to deify a coach that leads your favorite team. He wasn’t doing it for the fans, but for his own career. We were just witnesses. Sean didn’t try to muddy the water either, he was always clear about his motives, he never really attempted to endear himself with the fans. The players are the same way. We’re just witnesses to them living out their professional careers. Look at CJGJ that guy shows every fan base that he can care less about them including his former teams. Lol