Shanle gives insight into Saints Pay for Performance system (3 Viewers)

[sOulsaint]

Shanle said what most around here have been shouting for weeks.

 

[sammymvpknight]

Guys...this isn't "good news". You can't tie injuries of opposing players to a reward...even if the injury is unintentional. If money is to be made...then someone out there is going to do their best to make it. Hasn't Drew already proven that this offseason?

 

[Saint_Ward]

It's amazing how people unravel every time any new information is given about this.

We've been on the same page for weeks now. Nothing has refuted what we knew or pieced together by now.

If you READ the article, it even said players would be fined for penalties. So, any dirty hits would COST the player money (internally, and probably from the NFL too).

The reason the media and public are so angry about this is because they thought we were going out their trying to hurt other teams. We all knew that was garbage and now a player is flat out saying it. No one would get angry about a pay for performance system, so you have to say bounties. And because after a few games, I bet Williams went from saying "big hit" on a power point slide to "cart off" (maybe to get a reaction), now somehow that became the sole purpose??? child please.

 

[stevend]

Guys...this isn't "good news". You can't tie injuries of opposing players to a reward...even if the injury is unintentional.

I'll leave your last sentence off because it's not needed.

No one is saying the Saints didn't deserve some punishment. But this is no where near what the commissioner has stated happened. And this doesn't deserve anywhere near the amount of punishment it garnered.

 

[picnicwithfish]

I do not think that there is any question that players were using a "pay for performance" system for different types of big plays, hits, etc. Yes, i know that is still an illegal system based to the rules and that is why our coaches got the hammer dropped on them. my point to this all, is that EVERY TEAM has these type of systems!!!!!!!!! the league has tried to make the Saints look like the Devil and is trying to portray us as cheaters for having the same systems that every team has. as someone who has grown up listening to coaches give the same type of speech that GW did, from Middle school on, i know that this is just part of the game. it is what it is and will not stop even with all the focus from the league on this issue. the players/coaches will just find other ways to motivate and give incentives for making big GAME CHANGING PLAYS!!!!!!!!

For the people that want to say that the Saints are cheaters and the only team in the history of the league smart enough to use motivational based systems to get an extra level of performance from their players, i say to them "lol, keep dreaming and thinking that your stuff doesn't stink"

 

[bornnraisedwhodat]

Guys...this isn't "good news". You can't tie injuries of opposing players to a reward...even if the injury is unintentional. If money is to be made...then someone out there is going to do their best to make it. Hasn't Drew already proven that this offseason?

Nobody is saying its good news. It simply is what it is. I think its foolish for anyone to think the Saints were completely innocent in this.

My beef is with how it was portrayed. Yes, if your playing aggressive, and you legally hit a guy, and he happens to get taken out of the game, good for you. Here is a bonus. It's no different than the lick Whitner put on Pierre Thomas in the 49ers game, a good solid legal hit that knocked the snuff outta PT, and Im sure Whitner was rewarded in some form of fashion for that hit. Not because of intention to hurt PT, but for laying the wood on a player as he should and making a game changing play.

 

[kevinh]

Prediction for the headline on the ticker for ESPN -- SHANLE ADMITS TO SAINTS' BOUNTY SYSTEM

 

[bornnraisedwhodat]

Prediction for the headline on the ticker for ESPN -- SHANLE ADMITS TO SAINTS' BOUNTY SYSTEM

Unfortunetly this is true.

 

[Saint Droopy]

Prediction for the headline on the ticker for ESPN -- SHANLE ADMITS TO SAINTS' BOUNTY SYSTEM

You know it...

 

[St.Fury]

He said players would lose money just as easily as gaining money, thanks to fines for penalties and mental errors. So penalties or illegal hits were actually discouraged

If that's the case, most of our players probably lost more money than they were awarded.

 

[Saint Greg]

Unfortunetly this is true.

Pay for performance isn't a bounty system. Paying a guy $500 for a big hit is different from paying a guy $10,000 for taking Brett Favre out.

 

[bornnraisedwhodat]

Pay for performance isn't a bounty system. Paying a guy $500 for a big hit is different from paying a guy $10,000 for taking Brett Favre out.

Not in the league's/media's eyes.

 

[CP]

Prediction for the headline on the ticker for ESPN -- SHANLE ADMITS TO SAINTS' BOUNTY SYSTEM

Actually it seems ESPN will respond with *crickets*. Pat Y is at the Saints mini-camp and apparently hasn't reported this at all.

Loomis should walk around him with a different "listening" device for each practice. And the players should talk loudly about paying thousands of dollars to "whack" that "whack" reporter from that "whack" network on a legal, but hard hit.

 

[1badsailor]

I applaud him for having the courage to speak up. That buys him another shot in my eyes. We need leaders like this. If you're wrong hold yourself accountable and move on.

 

[coldseat]

What's truly sad is that the clearer the picture of what really was going on, the more obvious it becomes that there was no bounty/pay-to-injure program. The more obvious it becomes that there was no bounty/pay-to-injure program, the more entrenched Goodell becomes in his position. He will stand firm in his stance regardless of what happens around him and try to retain full control of the process so that nobody will see the supposed evidence, instead of manning up and come out publicly and state that he vastly mischaracterized what was happening in New Orleans and that he over stepped in his role of commissioner and excessively punished the coaches, organization and players.

He will never do this because it will obviously mean the end of him as commissioner of the league and he doesn't have the character to pay the price for his mistakes, regardless of how often he forces the players, coaches, and owners pay the price for their mistakes. Hypocrite!