So who's part of the 29%? (1 Viewer)

[DadsDream]

Honestly DD, despite what Clinton may have claimed, do you really think a President has any real control over an economy? I don't.

How soon we forget...

PBS
Nixon Tries Price Controls
Excerpt from The Commanding Heights by Daniel Yergin and Joseph Stanislaw, 1997 ed., pp. 60-64

[Following the Kennedy-Johnson administration in the United States, there was a massive effort to manage the marketplace, in part by controlling wages.] This initiative was not the handiwork of left-wing liberals but of the administration of Richard Nixon, a moderately conservative Republican who was a critic of government intervention in the economy.

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http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/commandingheights/shared/minitextlo/ess_nixongold.html

 

[Sniper Wolf]

lobbyists are Americans too.

Only because the black pits of Hades won't allow us to deport them there.

 

[blackadder]

Two out of three branches, controlled by the Republicrats, have approval ratings below 30%.

Nah...there's no need for a serious third party movement.

Yep.

Dems aren't doing any better in the credibility department.

Problem is we have a lack of leaders. Representatives are owned. They take marching orders, parrot scripted talking points.

It's degenerated into a farce.

We have an amnetsy bill that is sold as immigration reform.

And the list goes on...

Orwell is laughing somewhere.

 

[DadsDream]

Yep.

Dems aren't doing any better in the credibility department.

Problem is we have a lack of leaders. Representatives are owned. They take marching orders, parrot scripted talking points.

It's degenerated into a farce.

We have an amnetsy bill that is sold as immigration reform.

And the list goes on...

The GOP has issued a YouTube-conscious playbook to help Republicans avoid looking like idiots on the Internet. Why, they've even hired two blogger outreach press secretaries!

GOP issues rules to avoid Macaca moments
By: Carrie Budoff
Jun 13, 2007 05:16 PM EST

EXERPTS:

The guidebook, 39 pages long and distributed last week to GOP Senate campaigns, underscores attempts by Republicans to level the Web-based playing field after Democrats, in Ensign's view, leveraged their Internet savvy into electoral wins. Republicans remain almost haunted by their 2006 missteps, particularly the way the macaca incident exposed chasms in their new media campaign strategy.

"It is critical that Republicans not let Democrats continue the edge," Ensign said. "They have had an edge on us."

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http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0607/4483.html

 

[geauxboy]

I'm not in the 29%.

I don't care what former Prez's did, this poll is about Dubya. A cowboy hat wearing, warmongering, puppet for those that pull his strings. Just the fact of how neglected he has left this country and has focused most of his concerns on the rest of world.

That should be enough for anyone to vote "Disapprove".

 

[kevinh]

See, but I believe any American would rather it be at least wasted here in the U.S.

Go to a conservative website and see how your fellow Americans feel about that money going to Katrina relief, over the Baghdad embassy. New Orleanians are not American to the 29%.

 

[Ti Rider]

I was in the 29% until Bush started pushing Scamnesty. I'm even more disappointed he's continuing to campaign for it in congress. It's dead, no one but 20 million people who are because they broke the law wanted it.

 

[blackadder]

Go to a conservative website and see how your fellow Americans feel about that money going to Katrina relief, over the Baghdad embassy. New Orleanians are not American to the 29%.

This is true. I've heard so much stomach turning bile about New Orleans over the last couple of years I don't know where to start. Usually sounding just like talk radio scripted talking points.

The hate speech was so bad I've had to get up and walk away from tables because I was afraid I was going to throw a punch and I had no backup.

Always card carrying Republicans.

It's classic blame the victim syndrome.

 

[RebSaint]

This is true. I've heard so much stomach turning bile about New Orleans over the last couple of years I don't know where to start. Usually sounding just like talk radio scripted talking points.

The hate speech was so bad I've had to get up and walk away from tables because I was afraid I was going to throw a punch and I had no backup.

Always card carrying Republicans.

It's classic blame the victim syndrome.

I agree. It's the same with these people. There's plenty of blame to go to Blanco and Nagin, but to listen to the party liners, it's the fault of the people of New Orleans and the Democrats. Bushie had his hands tied, couldn't do a thing.

I'm sure if the same thing went down and the parties were reversed, you'd see the same crap.

 

[MPar98]

hey reb...thats great that you could use your glamour shot photo as your avatar...

 

[RebSaint]

hey reb...thats great that you could use your glamour shot photo as your avatar...

I'm hawt, I know.

 

[blackadder]

I agree. It's the same with these people. There's plenty of blame to go to Blanco and Nagin, but to listen to the party liners, it's the fault of the people of New Orleans and the Democrats. Bushie had his hands tied, couldn't do a thing.

I'm sure if the same thing went down and the parties were reversed, you'd see the same crap.

I'm not even talking so much about the total failure of government.

I'm talking about very personal and hateful attacks on the people of New Orleans and Louisiana.

"Stupid, uneducated, inbred, fat, lazy.." All the worst stuff.

I've had to step out for air a few times.

 

[St. Widge]

How soon we forget...

PBS
Nixon Tries Price Controls
Excerpt from The Commanding Heights by Daniel Yergin and Joseph Stanislaw, 1997 ed., pp. 60-64

[Following the Kennedy-Johnson administration in the United States, there was a massive effort to manage the marketplace, in part by controlling wages.] This initiative was not the handiwork of left-wing liberals but of the administration of Richard Nixon, a moderately conservative Republican who was a critic of government intervention in the economy.

READ MORE
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/commandingheights/shared/minitextlo/ess_nixongold.html

Let me amend my prior statement to reflect what I really meant. (How's that for a lawyer trick.) What I really meant is that there isn't much a President can do to make the economy better. He can with some actions make it worse.

So, in the end, I guess a President can have some small effect on the economy, but overall, our economy is driven by market forces, which is how it should be.

By the way, the conclusion to the article you link seems to suggest that Nixon's efforts lead to serious issues in the oil industry, which likely lead to some of the problems we had under Carter. Specifically, the price controls Nixon placed on domestic oil lead us to dependence on foreign oil and dependence on foreign oil lead to the gas crisis and spiraling inflation. Which also lead to the problems in Iran then and problems in the middle east now. So, in the end, it's not all Bush's fault, it's all Nixon's fault.

 

[SaintsFan11]

I'm not, but then again I disapproved of Bush before it was cool. He never struck me as someone who had the gravitas to be President of the USA.

Still, I'm not as cynical as most. Times are good. We can get involved in a disastrous war and gain prosperity at home. Things will turn sour eventually (not necessarily because of Bush, but because the always do) and the corruption and excess will no longer be tolerated.

 

[DadsDream]

LOL, Widge, I do love your responses. Impressive!

(Law & Order SVU Quote:
"Your honor, the defendant is charged with sexual misconduct, Section 34B."
"34B?! What is it counsel...was the victim a dead human or a live animal?"
I crack up everytime I see that rerun. )

Yes, Nixon's price controls had a direct impact on the dismal economics of the Carter years.

If the rest of the country is leery of throwing money at New Orleans, we need only blame ourselves.

As of January, the city had left $600 million in aid unclaimed.

Nagin trying to make a profit on over $100 million in federal emergency funding caused the city to lose that $100 million and the illegal profit he made by putting it in an interest-bearing account instead of spending it like he was supposed to.

Agency: New Orleans Hasn't Claimed $600M
Nagin Complains About Hurricane Funds, But Officials Say All He Needs To Do Is Ask
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/01/19/katrina/main2374249.shtml