So who's part of the 29%? (5 Viewers)

I'm in that 29%.

Of course, I'm old enough to remember double-digit inflation coupled with double-digit interest rates. If we ever go back to that again, you'll long for the good old days of Dubya.

I remember all that and think MOD EDIT is the worst President in my lifetime. Yes, worse than Carter and Nixon. Nixon was at least competent. Carter had good intentions. MOD EDIT
 
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I remember all that and think MOD EDIT is the worst President in my lifetime. Yes, worse than Carter and Nixon. Nixon was at least competent. Carter had good intentions. MOD EDITQUOTE]

Right there is one thing, you need to be careful about in a poll like this. I don't like the job Bush is doing right now, so I disapprove. Some people HATE him and have nicknames for him and such. They want to believe that 71 percent of the people equally hate him, and that isn't the case. Some people just dislike his direction and disagree with his presuppositions. Others think he is just evil for evil's sake. That's just dumb.
 
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This is true. While I despise MOD EDIT and believe he's done great damage to America, I also think his policies and actions are the root cause. He's not just evil for evil's sake.
 
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>>I would be one of the 29%
>>I'm in that 29%.

Anyone in that 29% is absolute Bottom 10. [tm]

TPS
 
Yep.

Dems aren't doing any better in the credibility department.

Problem is we have a lack of leaders. Representatives are owned. They take marching orders, parrot scripted talking points.

It's degenerated into a farce.

We have an amnetsy bill that is sold as immigration reform.

And the list goes on...

Orwell is laughing somewhere.
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The only difference between Democrat and Republican is in the special interest group served.

We have the best congress money can buy, and if most of us conducted our professional lives the way these clowns do we'd all be in the pokey, delicensed or excommunicated. Or all three.

I have no problem whatsoever imagining the Roman citizens sitting around 2000 years ago and saying the same things about their politicians. Just not via internet!!!

As you say, Blackadder, it is indeed a farce!! What's the line from the Rush song,

All the worlds indeed a stage
We are merely players
Performers and portrayers
Each anothers audience
Outside the gilded cage

Screw 'em all. They have no idea of true control. It's not wielded outside but within. They think only of self-aggrandizement and power, two of the most illusory and transient concepts known to man. Likely known ONLY to man.
 
I remember all that and think Chimpy is the worst President in my lifetime. Yes, worse than Carter and Nixon. Nixon was at least competent. Carter had good intentions. Chimpy is a wothless *****. (Starts with "W", rhymes with "snore".)
MOD EDIT - seek a higher level will go down in history as one of the worst, if not the worst, US presidents ever. History will justifiably not be kind to him, nor will Karma. He has done more to foster separateness and division in this country than any president I can remember, and that may be his longest-standing legacy. Haves vs. have-nots. Pro- vs against war. Pro choice vs pro life. The list goes on ad nauseum.
 
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I'm not even talking so much about the total failure of government.

I'm talking about very personal and hateful attacks on the people of New Orleans and Louisiana.

"Stupid, uneducated, inbred, fat, lazy.." All the worst stuff.

I've had to step out for air a few times.

I've been in the exact same situation. My republican boss was making fun of Katrina victims four days after the storm (glug, glug, glug)--and I didn't know where much of my family was!

Ask those same card-carrying R's who complain about their money going to New Orleans about the 12 billion dollars of taxpayer money that went MISSING in Iraq and they get real quiet real fast.
 
>>MOD EDIT will go down in history as one of the worst, if not the worst, US presidents ever. History will justifiably not be kind to him, nor will Karma. He has done more to foster separateness and division in this country than any president I can remember, and that may be his longest-standing legacy. Haves vs. have-nots. Pro- vs against war. Pro choice vs pro life. The list goes on ad nauseum.

And it won't even be close for 20th/21st Century Presidents. Forget "double digit inflation", or any other elements of the Carter era. At least they had principles and the general intelligence level (while sober) of the masses > today.

Again, it's not even close. Worst administration in the last 50 or 60 years (maybe even 90). They have done nothing of quality. Nothing. Zero. Mindless masses hooked on reality television, "the real world", etc.

Everything is dumbed down to the point where we are who we elect. Go U.S. and A.

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TPS
 
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This is true. While I despise MOD EDIT and believe he's done great damage to America, I also think his policies and actions are the root cause. He's not just evil for evil's sake.
No, T. you're right. He is not evil. He's just absolutely, totally clueless about anything, and that's not a good state of mind for a president to dwell.

He really believes his policy of robbing the poor to feed the rich is the right thing to do. Maybe in Bizarro World, but not here. Sorry Dubya, you're not in Kansas anymore.
 
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I've been in the exact same situation. My republican boss was making fun of Katrina victims four days after the storm (glug, glug, glug)--and I didn't know where much of my family was!

Ask those same card-carrying R's who complain about their money going to New Orleans about the 12 billion dollars of taxpayer money that went MISSING in Iraq and they get real quiet real fast.
These kinds of stories make me sick. How would these people feel if it were happening to them or their families? As Jesus said,"As ye sow, so shall ye reap." As the Buddha said, "All we are is the result of all we have thought, as we think, so we become."

So what will these people reap, and what will they become? When our compassion for the suffering of others departs, so does our humanity.
 
Although I am quite critical of Bush, I think it's rather exaggerated to claim that he's going to be the "worst" in American history, or for onr century. In recent history I can see, but even I'm still uncomfortable slapping labels on presidents without the full record being disclosed.

Call it an occupational hazard, but the full record regarding all facets of his administration still have to mulled, culled, critiqued and analyzed. Although I think Iraq is a disaster, that bird has yet to completely fly. I really do think if Iraq does have a chance at maintaining a modicum of stablility and success, his legacy will be a lot better than we realize. Nonetheless, historians have this uncanny ability to find at least some good and bad in all presidents--after all, although FDR tried to circumvent the Constitution to pack the Supreme Court with his own sympathizers, most agree that he was a pretty good president, or at least the right man at the right time. Lincoln pretty much arrested the whole MD state legislature without charging them with a crime, and somehow he makes the top of the list.

Not excusing these actions or defending Bush, but I think when people say "worst in history," they fall into the same trap as many mindless partisans who get caught up in the political heat of battle.

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While I agree it’s premature to hang the “worst ever” label on him, I don’t think it’s exaggerating to say he’s got the potential of having that honor. IMHO, the odds are very good that he will at least be one of the worst.

My biggest beef with this administration is the disdain for checks/balances and the trampling of the Constitution. They came into power declaring they would strengthen the Executive. They were successful and Jefferson is rolling over. Of course I’m also miffed about the cronyism, intimidation of the press, and the sheer breadth of the incompetence (From New Orleans to Iraq!), but I digress. FDR has the New Deal and WW2. Lincoln has emancipation and preservation of the Union. For these things, historians will forever forgive the transgressions. For Dubya’s missteps to be forgotten, there’s going to have to be a miracle in the Middle East. As of this writing, it ain’t looking good.
 

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