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retrobanana said:
You could nitpick all of those movies in the same way.
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Like, say, the first one, where they had developed they ability travel faster than the speed of light but hadn't yet come up with a gun that shot more accurately than Daniel Boone's muzzle-loader or even a Plantagenet longbow? :hihi:
 
My biggest concern is that the movie is really good and yet an established character dies and emotionally underdeveloped fanboys who want everything crystallized and unchanging for all eternity will never shut up about it and it becomes a massive distraction/talking point, and people scream about how they're quitting the franchise and their childhood has been destroyed and blah blah blah. The potential for such nonsense is already giving me a brain bleed.
 
Han has to die. You can always stick another guy in the Wookiee suit but Harrison Ford wanted to die in the original trilogy. Has to be him.
 
boutrous said:
I love that dude and his review is spot on.
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Man - I knew I hated those films. Some of the things he mentioned were obvious like the <s>mitochondrian</s> midichlorians, Jar Jar, commending R2-D2 for doing his job...I was literally yelling at the screen when I watched this for the first time..."He's a droid! He's not programmed to be afraid...and the only reason he fixed the ship and not the others was because he didn't happen to get shot!

But the level of detail he goes into and Mr. Plinkett's detailed understanding of story telling really opened my eyes to exactly WHY those films were so bad - and why the originals were so good.

I could do without all of his crude humor or the side-trilogy thing with the hooker through his reviews of the prequels, but that ultimately made a good point about story telling so I'll tolerate it.


Sun Wukong said:
My biggest concern is that the movie is really good and yet an established character dies and emotionally underdeveloped fanboys who want everything crystallized and unchanging for all eternity will never shut up about it and it becomes a massive distraction/talking point, and people scream about how they're quitting the franchise and their childhood has been destroyed and blah blah blah. The potential for such nonsense is already giving me a brain bleed.
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Years ago, I found out that the Millennium Falcon was originally supposed to explode with the Death Star II, but Lucas changed the ending due to feedback from screening audiences. Americans sure like their victories without the complexities of tragedy.

I think it would have made ROTJ a little more potent of a story. But then, you'd be killing off the only important black guy (James Earl Jones doesn't count).

Maybe Solo's, "I've got a bad feeling, like I'm not going to see her again" should have been removed?
 
Solo is to obvious, my money is on Luke dying. Just image the outcry and **** storm that would follow if they pulled the trigger on that one
 
Sun Wukong said:
Here's a bullet points version of how Anakin's fall to the dark side SHOULD have happened...
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I think this is pretty much along the lines of what most fans were expecting when the prequels were announced. Unfortunately it wasn't, as Lucas put it, the story he wanted to tell, and as another poster stated, I don't think we can ever expect a reboot.

That said, I wonder how much of the prequels struggled from a bad story, and how much was simply bad direction on Lucas' part: the acting was pretty poor -- Natalie Portman, for example, is almost unwatchable, but has proven in other movies she's a very fine actress; the pacing was bad -- the original trilogy films all clocked right about 2 hours each, while the prequels run close to 2:30; and there didn't seem to be anyone involved who could tell him "no" about anything.

What I'd like to see is a reverse of the special editions they did on the original trilogy in the 90's -- that is, take the films he shot, but re-cut them and see if you can improve them not by adding stuff, but by cutting stuff out. Cut out the stiff and clunky dialogue. Cut out the whole midichlorians junk. Cut out the characters narrating action as it happens -- just show it! Cut out as much of the gungans and child actors as possible. Cut out the stupid/silly voice-overs of the trade federation, Jar-Jar, the battle droids, etc. and replace them with something more menacing. If they did all this and re-cut them down to about 1:45 each I think the final product would be a huge improvement.
 
Booker said:
That said, I wonder how much of the prequels struggled from a bad story, and how much was simply bad direction on Lucas' part: the acting was pretty poor -- Natalie Portman, for example, is almost unwatchable, but has proven in other movies she's a very fine actress; the pacing was bad -- the original trilogy films all clocked right about 2 hours each, while the prequels run close to 2:30; and there didn't seem to be anyone involved who could tell him "no" about anything.
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I remember reading years ago someone from the OT, it was either Hamill or Ford, basically saying in an interview that George Lucas has no idea how to direct actors. They said he was great for technical stuff and visualizing action and special effects, but when it came down to the human element, he was out of his depth. And if you look at the jump in quality in performances between A New Hope and The Empire Strikes Back (directed by Irvin Kershner, who was selected by Lucas primarily because of his understanding of character development), you start to see how true it is.

The prequels pretty much confirm that, too. There was no shortage of talent in that cast and yet they contain some of the most wooden performances you could ever imagine. Ian Mcdiarmid does some great villainous scenery chewing as Palpatine/Sidious, but aside from that you've got some really good actors turning in some really lousy performances.
 
Parenting done right...

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