Tankathon: Saints top 6 draft pick watch (56 Viewers)

[SweetT]

Think we are at the part of the program where we need the most expensive Olave/Shaheed insurance we can find. Can’t trust either to make it through the season I’m afraid, and neither are a true #1…JMO.

We don’t even need a #1.
Look at GB. Those dudes stocked their cupboard, with a handful of WRs that just does their job. No divas. If one gets injured, they have 4 more to rely on. Two gets injured, three guys still remain. On any given Sunday, any one of them can be their “#1”. It’s just a matter of who is balling the most that day. Must be nice to know you always have guys that can be a viable option on gameday

 

[ELLIASJWILLIAMS]

I’m referring to this notion that we are supreme at finding WRs in later rounds. Other than Colston, I can’t think of any.

Don’t need Andrews. Need Warren from Penn State.
I’m about to go full @Infoman like he did with Bowers last year.
Warren is the guy we need. Dude lines up all over the field, including out of the shotgun. Plus the dude can block

Kenny Stills
Willie Snead
Lance Moore
Brandon Coleman comes to mind as well

 

[saintmike23]

WR is one of our biggest needs especially a big X that can make the contest catch

Aint nobody worth that pick after the top 2 are gone

 

[SweetT]

Kenny Stills
Willie Snead
Lance Moore
Brandon Coleman comes to mind as well

I’ll give you Stills.
Moore was drafted by the Browns.
Not sure we drafted Snead either. Edit: we didn’t draft him
Coleman was below average but was serviceable at times

 

[DSnfla]

If other NFL GM’s believe this, we should trade Carr in the offseason for draft picks. I’d take a 3 and a conditional 5th in 2026 to shed his contract.

He’s not that dude.

Maybe you should look at some QBR rankings this yr. It might enlighten you.

 

[webster]

We have glaring holes all over field but none more than at tightend and oline.

 

[DSnfla]

I think Carr is more likely a 10 to 15 QB, but maybe that's good enough. But, as I said, regardless of how much you like Carr, he is going to be 34 next season and only has two years left on his contract. So we need to be thinking about and looking for the next QB. That's why I think a guy like Malik Willis, if not Malik Willis, makes sense. He's young enough to sit behind Carr for a year or two to learn more and be ready to start. And, he has running skills that would allow you to get him on the field to run the Wildcat and trick plays while he waits to be the starting QB.

Maybe the answer is Rattler. He has two games to prove he can be a starter. He has shown flashes, but he needs to show more progress.

We have always disagreed about where DC ranks but his QBR for most of this yr is on my side and that's with a INCREDIBLE amount of injuries on O .

 

[kennydfresh]

Because the Saints still had a starting QB and were not eliminated from the playoffs then.

All hope for the season was already lost. Both starting WRs gone plus Taysom Hill at that point you look around and see the writing on the wall, your not going to win the championship this year. A blind man could deduce that we were not going to win enough games to get a playoff spot.

 

[kennydfresh]

I learned this lesson years ago when the Saints inexplicably made a heroic comeback to beat the Bucs in the last game of the season back in '14. We were mathematically eliminated and the Bucs stood to gain the #1 overall pick with a loss. Saints are down 20-7 at halftime. Seems like a good time to pull your starters and get ready for next year. Get a better draft pick and regroup. No sense in giving a division opponent the #1 pick, risk injury to Drew and co., and hurt your draft position right? Wrong. Saints mount a comeback for the ages and win a nail biter 23-20.

So after the game I was like, what was that all about? That wasn't ideal because it cost us draft spots and gave them #1 overall. People came at me like spider monkeys on speed. They came at me like I had said the most controversial thing ever. Like I had uttered blasphemy. Something like Archie being vastly overrated. Anyway, I learned my lesson. Meaningless wins late in the year mean the world to a lot of people. They don't care about having a great pick in the blue chip range. They don't see the difference between the 6th pick and the 16th pick. Just win baby! Who cares about the draft?! Who cares about the future?!

Some fans would be happy with a win in the last game of the season even if it cost the Saints the #1 overall pick with the greatest QB prospect in history about to enter the draft. Different strokes for different strokes. I personally see improved draft position as infinitely more valuable than some random late season win in a lame duck season. But who am I? I'm just a fan. What do I know about anything? The last three times the Saints had picks inside the top 10 they came away with Johnathan Sullivan, Reggie Bush, and Sedrick Ellis. It's been a mixed bag I guess. No guarantees.

You strike me as the type of guy that would find a million dollars on the side of the road and turn it into the cops. I'm not.

 

[livefromDC]

All hope for the season was already lost. Both starting WRs gone plus Taysom Hill at that point you look around and see the writing on the wall, your not going to win the championship this year. A blind man could deduce that we were not going to win enough games to get a playoff spot.

No. I'm not a Saints fan to cheer against against them winning ESPECIALLY when they are still alive. That's such a lover mentality. Now that they're out of contention, I get it. But wanting them to lose as soon as injuries happen, what's the ******* point!?!

 

[DSnfla]

I like Harris, but I don't see him as a top 10 pick. I think he's likely going in the 2nd so we should be in a position to draft him with our high second round pick. But, things could change depending on how his combine and on campus workouts go.

Harris almost for sure will not be top 10. My small miracle picks in the 1st are either Grahm or McMillian. If not then I would really try and trade down about 10 or so spots and pick up a 2nd or high 3rd and take Harris in the 2nd if we don't get Tmac

 

[DSnfla]

Aint nobody worth that pick after the top 2 are gone

I've seen McMillan mocked from 5 to 25 If he's there when we pick we run to the podium. If not then probably best DL or trade down

 

[DSnfla]

We have glaring holes all over field but none more than at tightend and oline.

I disagree, DL is way more of a need than OL and WR is more than TE. A McMillan or a Harris makes the O way better. Yes we need an upgrade @ OG but it's unlikely a rookie OG comes in and does that. But a mid-priced FA of or 2 would. We could also move Ruiz to be a back-up C since McCoy is having injuries issues lately

 

[DSnfla]

@Rouxble I think quantified it best. Teams that can pass and stop the pass are generally successful. I'd be fine w/ a secondary player, especially one that can force turnovers at a high rate. Our defense was suspect to start the year, but they got turnovers at a high rate. I remember telling people firing Dennis Allen will affect the defense somewhere, somehow but we won't know it at first. Obviously our ability to force turnovers went way down after his departure, and more specifically seemed to fall off a cliff once Adebo went down, but primarily i noticed the Safeties got far fewer takeways than they had to start the year.

We need to rebuild the secondary so that we can blitz and play more aggressively. The best teams are fairly blitz heavy this year and offenses haven't adapted well, conversely offenses have been killing teams playing soft coverage shells and in 2High. This defense would benefit by getting rid of their tendencies to play coverage heavy on the back end.

Yes, but haven't teams been counteracting playing 2 high by running the ball more? The teams rushing the ball have been up for the last couple of years. And with more teams having mobile/running QBs wouldn't a better DL be more productive than a CB with our depth @ CB?

 

[jasonsw]

As Monday night’s game showed, the losses will take care of themselves.
I guess the Raiders are pretty bad, but the Saints are playing on a short week with a home crowd that will likely be unenthusiastic. I wouldn’t pencil this in as a win, particularly given the pathetic state of the offense.

I don't think NO is going to win. Raiders are healthier and have more talent. That TE is going to give the Saints defense nightmares