The Best Quarterback I Have Seen... (2 Viewers)

[j4m2b]

Other than Drew, best all time to me is Peyton Manning.

^ this, hands down for me

 

[boutte]

Look… I hated/hate (HATE) the 49ers, but Montana was the most clutch QB there ever was, and he’s definitely locked-in to the top 2 ever… but Aaron Rodgers isn’t the other guy.

Joe Cool really was a cool character. He made it look easy. It didn't hurt that he was throwing to the greatest WR ever but he had something to do with that too.

And I'll never forget him dragging the Chiefs into the playoffs his last year and almost getting a win. He was like a next gen Johnny U.

 

[Xeno]

Brady has benefited greatly from the rule changes put in place to protect QBs over the last 10 years.

If you give Brady a great defense and running game, he’s definitely good enough to handle the rest.

So is Jared Goff. Trent forking Dilfer won a Super Bowl thanks to great defense and a running game. That's a really low bar to cross for a QB.

And that is my point. Randy Moss was rented for a season. Aaron Hernandez was there for a cup of coffee then went to fail, and Wes, Julian, Gronk, and Ben to Brady were like Colston, Graham, Meachem, and Lance Moore were to Brees.

Moss played four seasons with NE. Hernandez was every bit as good as Gronk, then he got pinched for murder. Gronk is probably going to be the most prolific TE in NFL history. Brady did not make a career out of turning no-names into All-Pros. He made a career out of having a great defense backing him up year in and year out, a front office that knows how to get the most out of every roster slot, generally having at least one household name catching balls and plenty of shady sheet sprinkled in.

 

[RJ in Lafayette]

In my view, Brady belongs in the discussion. But Montana, Brady and Manning--all great quarterbacks--played on superior teams and in superior organizations, and especially the first two would not have had quite the same success had they played on different teams. Elway, Marino and Rodgers made their teams substantially more competitive because of extraordinary physical gifts.

 

[Centmssaint1]

So is Jared Goff. Trent forking Dilfer won a Super Bowl thanks to great defense and a running game. That's a really low bar to cross for a QB.



Moss played four seasons with NE. Hernandez was every bit as good as Gronk, then he got pinched for murder. Gronk is probably going to be the most prolific TE in NFL history. Brady did not make a career out of turning no-names into All-Pros. He made a career out of having a great defense backing him up year in and year out, a front office that knows how to get the most out of every roster slot, generally having at least one household name catching balls and plenty of shady sheet sprinkled in.

Just like Bree. But Brady had the luxury of playing in a week conference his whole career. The only thing stopping him from time to time from making it to the Super Bowl was Payton Manning. These two seasons, he’s been lucky because Covid has wiped out most of his opponents.