The folly of keeping Marcus Davenport and letting Hendrickson go (1 Viewer)

[Nonreg]

This is like reminiscing over that girl in high school that you could of gone on a date with, but picked someone else.

Let it go already

 

[TenTwo]

Revisiting this old thread. Letting Hendrickson out of the building after he became a stud right before our eyes is even more unforgivable than letting Baun go be an All Pro for the Eagles.

 

[RaginCajun83]

Revisiting this old thread. Letting Hendrickson out of the building after he became a stud right before our eyes is even more unforgivable than letting Baun go be an All Pro for the Eagles.

Most GMs would have been fired over something like this

 

[Rouxble]

Revisiting this old thread. Letting Hendrickson out of the building after he became a stud right before our eyes is even more unforgivable than letting Baun go be an All Pro for the Eagles.

Seems Loomis wanted to avoid a similar mistake when he extended Granderson after he had 2.5 sacks in two games (but has had 10.5 in the 28 games since).

 

[rlemieux]

I think Davenport was the worst draft pick since Sedrick Ellis. Cost us 2 first round picks, Trey Hendrickson and had to use another 1st for Turner after it looked like it wasn't working out. Set our D line back years in terms of developing new talent.

I think you mean Jonathan Sullivan not Sedrick Ellis.

 

[RaginCajun83]

Seems Loomis wanted to avoid a similar mistake when he extended Granderson after he had 2.5 sacks in two games (but has had 10.5 in the 28 games since).

So he finally learned after letting players leave time and time again

 

[DaveXA]

Most GMs would have been fired over something like this

Eh, no they don't. GMs make this sort of mistake pretty regularly. It happens. I would agree they get fired for doing it repeatedly tho.

 

[RaginCajun83]

Eh, no they don't. GMs make this sort of mistake pretty regularly. It happens. I would agree they get fired for doing it repeatedly tho.

He has done it repeatedly right? He seems to do cap gymnastics to extend contracts and bring in free agents but when does he keep players that were developed here

 

[DaveXA]

He has done it repeatedly right?

Somewhat. It's a mixed bag. He's had some wins and losses, but the losses have been more frequent in recent years. Idk if that's poor talent evaluation, poor drafts or what have you. Some think Ireland has lost his touch also.

I am one who wants Loomis out of the GM position tho. He can go be President or VP or something, but we need new blood in the GM position.

 

[Shadeaux]

 

[Saint Greg]

Most GMs would have been fired over something like this

I don’t know if I’d totally blame Loomis for it. In one of the NOF pods last offseason they were talking about how poor our drafting has been and Underhill said we wouldn’t have kept Hendrickson either way because the coaching staff didn’t believe in him.

 

[Saint KayBee]

I am one who wants Loomis out of the GM position tho. He can go be President or VP or something, but we need new blood in the GM position.

Makes me wonder what they’d even call such a position with the way the org chart and the will are written.

In football operations they’ve got:
• Mickey Loomis, Executive Vice President / General Manager
• Khai Harley, Assistant General Manager / Vice President of Football Operations
• Scott Kuhn, Director of Football Administration
• Derek Stamnos, Director of Team Operations

and in player personnel:
• Jeff Ireland, VP/Assistant General Manager - College Personnel
• Michael Parenton, Director of Pro Personnel
• Randy Mueller, Senior Personnel Advisor
• Dave Zeigler, Personnel Advisor
• Ziad Qubti, College Scouting Coordinator
• followed by a bunch of pro, national, and area scouts
(Curiously, neither Mueller nor Ziegler is listed on the staff masthead of the team’s official website.)

The best I could come up with is C-Suite Chairman, because all the rest of the Saints’ C-suite personnel have roles in Gayle Benson’s other operating interests like the Pelicans and/or GMB Farms. This would make folks like Ben Hales, Greg Bensel, etc. his direct reports.

After that, I think the team would keep Khai Harley around as GM/VP of Football Operations since he understands the numbers. Let him pick his own assistant GMs and make whatever changes to scouting he deems necessary.

 

[Saintman2884]

You know the nearer your destination, the more you end up slip-sliding away big time sadly.

 

[los226]

Going into Hendrickson's walk year, 2020, Davenport was already the starter.
If Hendrickson had done anything in his previous 3 seasons he likely would have been part of the long term plan, maybe even restructured by that point.
Perhaps we don't even draft Davenport if Hendrickson had shown serious flashes in 2017.

But as it was going into 2020, Davenport was more established with a combined 10.5 sacks and 43 Pressures in 2018 and 2019 with three years left on his contract while Hendrickson was in the final year of his contract and had a combined 4.5 Sacks and 27 Pressures in 2018 and 2019.
It is not that hard to figure out what the FO was thinking heading into 2020.

If Hendrickson had put together another solid year that season, I'm sure the team would've tried to sign him to a PJ Williams-esque contract.
He simply outplayed their expectations and the amount of money the Saints could pay him that off-season.

This is the correct answer. It’s not that they couldn’t afford Hendrickson; it’s that they felt he wasn’t worth what he was about to be paid. He really only had one year where he excelled, which was his contract year. They didn’t think he was worth kicking the can down the road as they had Davenport as the starter and the Marcus Williams contract coming soon as well.

 

[RaginCajun83]

Has Marcus Williams even done anything with the Ravens?