The Jets and Derek Carr (4 Viewers)

[jasonsw]

Side bar.
But is there any reason why anyone would choose the Jets over the Giants? They’re in the same stadium so distance isn’t a issue.
I know the Giants haven’t been great recently, but you got the Parcells/Coughlin years to look at fondly.

That and they were very good just last year. If they had a Gorrapolo caliber QB, they are maybe in the NFC championship game

 

[Whodat GT]

The Jets painted themselves into a corner with the handling of the Carr situation and are now in desperation mode. It will be interesting to see how it plays out.

Robert Saleh is in a similar situation to Dennis Allen, in that he’s basically got to win and win quickly or be on the chopping block.

The Jets have some young talent but they need a veteran QB to push things forward. Carr was the perfect fit for their needs. He’s got some fire and knows the landscape of the AFC. I have no doubt that anyone who knows actual Xs and Os football in the Jets camp wanted Carr. It makes too much sense.

But the Rodgers possibility made them push pause on Carr and he went to the team that actually wanted him outright.

Much like the Saints and Dolphins with Brees in 2006.

Sometimes you want to be where you’re wanted most.

Carr will not regret the decision because he’s about to feel a love from Saints Nation that he’s never felt before as a pro.

The Jets are either going to overpay for Rodgers or overpay for Jimmy G now.

It makes me so grateful that the Saints brass did what they needed to do to get their guy and that the Jets overplayed their hand to nudge Carr to us.

I mean the parallels between the Brees and Carr signings are astounding. The Saints played it as they should have, and they might reap the rewards.

 

[ccss]

I mean the parallels between the Brees and Carr signings are astounding. The Saints played it as they should have, and they might reap the rewards.

Lots of parallels!

 

[JvilleJoe]

I just can’t help but laugh at the Jets coverage.
For an organization that is so confused, inept, and dumb; they sure get a lot of coverage.
This is a franchise that has only won 2 division titles since 1970!

They are NY area based and always get the lions share of coverage. Same with the RAMS, etc. Small market teams are second class entities with the exception of Green Bay. It is just the way it is!

 

[HattiesburgWhoDat]

When the Jets moved to Shea Stadium in 1964, they became "Long Island's team" in a way. Football fans from Brooklyn and Queens wouldn't have to schlep to the Polo Grounds in upper Manhattan anymore (or worse, to Yankee Stadium in the Bronx to watch the so-so Giants).

Shortly after that was Broadway Joe, the Heidi Bowl**,"the guarantee", and a Super Bowl III victory. The Jets lived off of that season for over a decade as Long Islanders wrapped both arms around their Jets.

Both the Jets and Giants kind of floated through mediocrity in the 1970s. In the seasons immediately before Bill Parcells made the Giants relevant, the Jets were relevant again and the toast of New York for a few seasons behind star defenders Marc Gastineau and Joe Klecko -- the vaunted New York Sack Exchange.

In 1984, the Jets left Queens to play in Giants' Stadium. Jets' owner Leon Hess knew that leaving Shea Stadium and the Long Island fanship was chancy, and tried to negotiate with the city to modernize Shea Stadium and for some extra concessions for his team. The city and the team could not come to an agreement in the end.

So anyway. Imagine that the AFL had a New Orleans team competing against the Saints, but they played in Algiers. Before long, they'd become "The West Bank's team" and probably be bitter rivals with the Saints. And then imagine that the Algiers team had some early success with some exciting teams and iconic players while the Saints floundered. That's kind of how Jets' fanship was built.

** yes, the Heidi Bowl was a Jets regular season loss -- but it added to the young team's lore.

Thank you. I have wondered the same thing with the Giants being so much more successful the last 30-40 years. How the Jets were still so popular. But I would never take the energy to find out why. Lol. You explained it well.

 

[Saint Jack]

They are NY area based and always get the lions share of coverage. Same with the RAMS, etc. Small market teams are second class entities with the exception of Green Bay. It is just the way it is!

I understand the NY team will always get new coverage.
But let me just ramble on current media for a second.
Most of these journalists learned their craft in the 90s and it shows.
They are operating on the notion that suddenly being in NY changes everything. That may be the case in 1985 or even 2005, but it doesn’t anymore.
It’s a post streaming/Sunday ticket world.
The neighbors bar in Biloxi has every game now.
You can build a “brand” from any city.
Favre did it.
Rodgers did it.
Brees did it.
Manning did it. Twice. In Indianapolis and Denver.
Mahomes is the biggest star in this League and he’s in a flyover state!
I also think the executives don’t realize how much the game has changed.
I keep seeing these reporters laughing at Rodgers because he has a regular segment with Macafee, but he has a bigger following than anyone at ESPN at this moment.
Heck, I think if you took a poll from everyone under 40, the majority get their sports fix from podcasts like Pardon My Take and Pat Macafee.

 

[Sailorsaint]

Many of the goodies can’t be posted here because it would break the TOS here, something that apparently doesn’t exist on the Jets’ fan forum.

Rumor: Woody Johnson wanted Aaron Rodgers while Staff wanted Derek Carr

Here's Matthew Berry's report (which he apparently is doing now). Infuriating and not surprising in the least if true. That moron never learns:...

forums.theganggreen.com

In a nutshell, they are absolutely livid about this, and you definitely feel like you’re standing right in the middle of the Bronx or Manhattan while reading some of the posts.

They say Woody is the worst owner in the NFL. Would they like to trade with Washington then?! lol I'm so happy with our ownership for the past decade plus, we've really been fortunate.

 

[HattiesburgWhoDat]

They say Woody is the worst owner in the NFL. Would they like to trade with Washington then?! lol I'm so happy with our ownership for the past decade plus, we've really been fortunate.

Actually, since TB saved the Saints from Jacksonville in, what, late 70's- early '80's under Mecum? (Too lazy to look it up right now...lol) I don't remember the Bum years but the Mora years weren't too bad. 2006-2020 no comments needed. Thank heavens for TB and now Gayle.