The Stealing Money List (1 Viewer)

[BBarnes]

Loomis
Dennis Allen
Pete Carmichael
Doug Marrone


The players are just a product of the clowns leading the circus. Some players shouldn’t have been extended, but all were set up to fail with the aforementioned group above.

 

[cajnwillie]

Cam Jordan

 

[sainthood]

I will go with problem contracts. I will never accuse a player of stealing as every player should get every dollar he can negotiate.

Ryan Ramcyzk : being paid as a top 5 right tackle. Has a recurring knew problem where he is no longer a premium right rackle emulating problems we had with Terron Armstead. signed through 2026 with a void 2027 2024 cap number $27 million 2025 cap number $28 million
Trevor Penning: the first round pick reach due to the loss of Armstread that seems to lack the foot speed to be a starting tackle.
Michael Thomas: contract has three void years after his 1 year deal with a $9.1 million cap hit. Man is no longer our second best wide receiver due to age or injury history. Shaheed deserves to get paid as our number two. Still a viable player on the roster if healthy but not at old pay scale.
Cam Jordan : resigned before thsi season has void years with cap hits to 2027 but a 2024 cap hit of $23 million and 2025 17 million. Jordan's age is massively showing and cannot get to the passer. This extension is based on tenure. Cam being a hall of famer one of the greatest Saints to ever play but just not a good move cap wise for this team that was already cap stretched.

Derek Carr: Cap hit of $35, $45, $55.7 for 2024 to 2026. Carr has not bonded with this fan base and the question of if it is Carmichael or Carr is not helped by Carr's yelling at Olave and fighting with McCoy on the field for us to see. We expect more because he is paid the most. The econmics say we are stuck with Carr and our best hope is fire the coaching staff and find something that can salvage Carr. Dare we say John Gruden gets involved.

Jameis Winston as a legacy from his original starter contact has void years out to 2026 with cap hit of $10.6 million if we part ways.

Alvin Kamara has a $18.8 and $29 million cap hits the next two seasons that is just a lot to pay for any running back in today's NFL and goes against all sane cap management in a wide receiver driven league. Keep but has to be renegotiated back to this past offseason that showed Pollard and Barkley had to settle for short term deals.

Tyrann Matheu has a $12 million cap hit for 2024 for a fan favorite that is too slow and needs to take less to stay.

 

[saint_drago]

Ceasar Ruiz. Upped contract tooooo early. Ramchek knew he was a lemon when we signed him

I see where you're coming from with Ruiz. I didn't see anything that made me believe Loomis should rush to get him taken care of. But when it comes to Ram, that's a tough one. The blame isn't on Ram. Of course he knew he had issues but what was he supposed to do, tell the Saints he wants less money on account of his gimpy knee? The Saints knew about his knee but they decided to do what they do best, take a big money gamble. Riverboat Mickey strikes again.

It's hard for me to call players out and say they are stealing money when they were doomed from the start with one of the worst HC/OC combos I have ever seen. What do you get when you combine an old roster with some talent with a DC pretending to be a HC and a QB coach pretending to be an OC? The 2023 New Orleans Saints.

 

[saintmdterps]

Brian Bresee and Demario Davis are not stealing money. Not sure about AK yet. Everyone else is under scrutiny.

 

[tjharris]

I see where you're coming from with Ruiz. I didn't see anything that made me believe Loomis should rush to get him taken care of. But when it comes to Ram, that's a tough one. The blame isn't on Ram. Of course he knew he had issues but what was he supposed to do, tell the Saints he wants less money on account of his gimpy knee? The Saints knew about his knee but they decided to do what they do best, take a big money gamble. Riverboat Mickey strikes again.

We've had problems evaluating players injuries for quite a while now. I don't know who's supposed to be doing this for the Saints but they are not good at it. Guess we'll just keep chopping wood though.

 

[BreesusSaves]

I always click OP's threads because I know I will get a great chuckle at whatever their take is.

 

[EvilMike]

Kamara isn't stealing money, he plays for coaches who don't know how to utilize him.

 

[SaintsMan209]

Lattimore (always hurt)
Peat (average at everything and always hurt)
Juwan Johnson(major major bust this season)
Derek Carr (privileged phony that is a walking insult)
Tyron Matthieu - not special
Marcus Maye - suspended or hurt
Cesar Ortiz - should be a center
Colin Saunders - can’t hold David onyemata jock strap
Blake gripe - lost lutz cause if this goof

 

[guillermo]

No player is stealing money from the saints.

They are playing under the contract they were given. Others are playing on extensions made on the need to defer cap numbers.

If you have issues with contracts, don’t blame the players. Blame Loomis.

 

[saintsmarchin]

Williams isnt stealing money.. its just Detroit Lions have a far better Oline than we do.

its very simple... do you think Williams wouldnt be busting through for incredible gains with Unger Nicks and Evans in the interrior?

 

[SigFreudianSlip]

Ceasar Ruiz. Upped contract tooooo early. Ramchek knew he was a lemon when we signed him

Ruiz I can agree but Ram has been a great player for us until the injuries became too much to overcome. And we didn’t sign him, we drafted him.

 

[SigFreudianSlip]

No player is stealing money from the saints.

They are playing under the contract they were given. Others are playing on extensions made on the need to defer cap numbers.

If you have issues with contracts, don’t blame the players. Blame Loomis.

What the OP is implying is players who are underperforming, not performing to or near the level of their contract. Every team has these players, just as every team has a player or players who perform above their contract.

 

[RJS]

I see where you're coming from with Ruiz. I didn't see anything that made me believe Loomis should rush to get him taken care of. But when it comes to Ram, that's a tough one. The blame isn't on Ram. Of course he knew he had issues but what was he supposed to do, tell the Saints he wants less money on account of his gimpy knee? The Saints knew about his knee but they decided to do what they do best, take a big money gamble. Riverboat Mickey strikes again.

It's hard for me to call players out and say they are stealing money when they were doomed from the start with one of the worst HC/OC combos I have ever seen. What do you get when you combine an old roster with some talent with a DC pretending to be a HC and a QB coach pretending to be an OC? The 2023 New Orleans Saints.

I believe Ram's knee injury and subsequent surgery happened during the 2021-22 season. We signed him to his extension before that season started. It's just an unfortunate circumstance.

 

[saint_drago]

I believe Ram's knee injury and subsequent surgery happened during the 2021-22 season. We signed him to his extension before that season started. It's just an unfortunate circumstance.

Oh okay. I thought there was some talk about his knee before that but I could be wrong. Probably am.