League insiders tells Tony Pauline that Aaron Glenn will end up being Saints Head Coach [Edit: Underhill says no decision is close to being made] (17 Viewers)

[St. Widge]

Well, if this report is true (not that it should be given any credibility), then it shows part of why he's being considered is because he'd give deference to Loomis, which would blatantly make him a yes man.

But even if the report isn't true (and let's hope it's not), it would be Loomis settling on another insular hire of a guy whose biggest asset seems to be that he was recently with the franchise, suggesting that, like Allen, he's someone Loomis feels he'd be able to control or that otherwise won't give him any push back -- i.e., a yes man.

I think the first part is fair, but I'm not sure how Glenn is really an insular hire. He only spent one year here as a player and 4 years as DB coach. He spent most of his career with the Jets and the last 3 years coaching in Detroit. Yes, he has some connections to the team and knows the City, but I don't see him as a continuation of anything. And I can't see someone who coached under Campbell and is a former good NFL player being a yes man for any GM.

I mean it's not like Glenn hasn't been talked about as a top HC candidate for the last couple years and there are rumors that he really wants the Jets job.

Also, I don't know that even DA was Loomis' yes man. I think it was more that Loomis was DAs yes man, trying to get Watson for him and getting Carr for him. And that giving DA what he wanted and failing to fire DA earlier is Loomis' true major flaw.

 

[LiterOCola]

I'm so tired of Loomis

More concerned about keeping his friend circle intact than winning.

 

[Mr. Sparkle]

FWIW I have seen/heard/read several pieces from Tony Pauline over the years - I would say he's sort of a poor man's Ian Rappaport combined with Mel Kiper. He's not Schefter or Jay Glazer but he's not a total rando.

Of course this report could be way off base, but its not like others haven't reported Glenn's name being tied to the Saints job and we certainly know enough about Loomis and how he views this current staff that it certainly seems plausible.

It might be bunk, or it might be that someone inside Airline is tired of Loomis' MO and wants to get the word out. We'll see.

 

[HouseCall]

I'm so tired of Loomis

Yes. He has totally worn out his welcome.

 

[Nolan]

Isn’t it normal for a Head Coach to hire his own staff? That wouldn’t exclude retaining current coaches.

Yes. HC hiring his own staff is absolutely the norm.

 

[Rexman100]

Nothing changes if nothing changes. This is the running it back scenario. Only upside I see to this is it is the way to keep Kubiak as OC. But it also means those older players and bad contracts aren't going to be cleaned up and it will be mostly the same roster next season. I'd love to start new but it sounds like Loomis isn't going to let that happen.

right, and ML would retain the ownership vibe. Whereas if we hired someone with no ties, someone who brought in a completely new staff, the vibe would shift to the new HC if that coach was an alpha. Every article ive read only mentions Glenn being a shoe in due to ties. Is there any info out there that is convincing that AG would actually be a great HC? IMO, Flores has a better defensive coaching ability.

 

[Rexman100]

One thing to be open to keeping coaches (versus just firing everyone), another to be forced to keep certain coaches whether the head coach believes it is best for the team or not. I would like to believe it is the former instead of the latter.

Right, either way it just builds in excuses. Even DA got to burn 2 years of free passes building HIS team. With that said, i do still like KK, Benton, Dennison and especially Janocko. (I have faith that he can develop Rattler)

 

[DerrickB]

FWIW I have seen/heard/read several pieces from Tony Pauline over the years - I would say he's sort of a poor man's Ian Rappaport combined with Mel Kiper. He's not Schefter or Jay Glazer but he's not a total rando.

Of course this report could be way off base, but its not like others haven't reported Glenn's name being tied to the Saints job and we certainly know enough about Loomis and how he views this current staff that it certainly seems plausible.

It might be bunk, or it might be that someone inside Airline is tired of Loomis' MO and wants to get the word out. We'll see.

He's the next tier of Insiders.
Ben Allbright level.

 

[Booker]

right, and ML would retain the ownership vibe. Whereas if we hired someone with no ties, someone who brought in a completely new staff, the vibe would shift to the new HC if that coach was an alpha. Every article ive read only mentions Glenn being a shoe in due to ties. Is there any info out there that is convincing that AG would actually be a great HC? IMO, Flores has a better defensive coaching ability.

That’s my perception, that Glenn would be coming in with an understanding of the hierarchy, and his place within it, as opposed to someone coming in fresh that might be more likely to challenge the status quo.

 

[Saintcd]

All we have is some rumor based on what a guy I have never heard of "heard" from NFL "insiders". We have no idea if it's true or not. I agree that if it's true it's concerning, but we have no idea if it is true.

People just want it to be true because it would confirm what they want to believe is true about Loomis. And maybe it is true, but I'm going to need a better source that this before I believe it.

Agree, I’m not a fan of loomis at this point, but willing to see the hiring process for the next HC play out. If we see the signs of last time. Waiting till after vacation to start, not bringing in the most qualified applicants to interview or waiting till they are already looking to be committed to other teams. That’s when I know this organization is doomed till he’s out. I do consider Glenn an internal hire at this point and would be the nepo way he went last time.

Agree, this reporter could just be talking out of his butt for click and pot stirring.

 

[kcirdor]

Just in general/historically the Saints have kept a hand full of coaches through different coaching changes.

 

[Boy_of_wonder75]

Well, if this report is true (not that it should be given any credibility), then it shows part of why he's being considered is because he'd give deference to Loomis, which would blatantly make him a yes man.

But even if the report isn't true (and let's hope it's not), it would be Loomis settling on another insular hire of a guy whose biggest asset seems to be that he was recently with the franchise, suggesting that, like Allen, he's someone Loomis feels he'd be able to control or that otherwise won't give him any push back -- i.e., a yes man.

What makes you think Loomis has "i can control him" as a criterion?

 

[DerrickB]

 

[RaginCajun83]

Hopefully this report is false, a move like this would set this franchise back even further

 

[Cajun Chat]

NFL insider’s notes on Saints: Latest on search for new head coach and questions around GM Mike Loomis’s future

The New Orleans Saints are just one of many teams in the market for a new head coach after firing Dennis Allen nine games into the season.

www.sportskeeda.com

This is (or would be, if true) Jerry Jones level of meddling.

oh boy.

right, and ML would retain the ownership vibe. Whereas if we hired someone with no ties, someone who brought in a completely new staff, the vibe would shift to the new HC if that coach was an alpha. Every article ive read only mentions Glenn being a shoe in due to ties. Is there any info out there that is convincing that AG would actually be a great HC? IMO, Flores has a better defensive coaching ability.

I would agree with you that Flores gets more out of his players with intensity and scheme. The problem with Flores is he comes with perceived baggage and according to some reports he was suing the NFL. That won't play well in NY at the league office. Ms. Gayle doesn't want any stuff splashing up on the organization. It's why I don't think Gruden would not be the guy. Glenn is a safe pick but I'm not sure he's the right pick. We need an alpha dog ala Campbell, Tomlin, Payton and even a Rizzi type personality to bring some life back into this organization. Rizzi is not the guy but someone with that intensity.