Tyler Warren vs Mason Taylor (1 Viewer)

[3ParStillDriver]

Tyler Warren is a man amongst mice on that football field. He's super aggressive with the catch. He plays extremely angry as well. He runs the ball exactly like Taysom Hill once its in his hands. For this reason Penn State used a lot of TE screens to him. He's a complete "Go get it" when the ball is in the air, and quite honestly, Drew Allar probably wouldn't even be a known name without Tyler Warren. He can also run block. To top that off. Imagine a younger Travis Kelce, who ran as angry as Taysom Hill when he caught the ball. That's Tyler Warren. He can find the soft spot in zones and just sits, waiting for the catch and people can't outplay him for it. One handed grabs? Sure. Runs like Taysom Hill? yup. Always finding ways to get open? That too. Dependable hands? Of Course.

He really is a complete game changer for an offense.

Mason Taylor is just simply a good TE but not something to build an offense around. His ceiling is more like LaPorta for the Lions. Tyler Warren can quite literally put the offensive passing game on his back and carry the team, as well as help out significantly in the run game with his blocking.

On top of that, Luke Lachey is a better TE than Mason Taylor. Taylor is known because of LSU and Lachey is not because he's from Iowa with an awful QB and missed the 2023 season with an ankle injury that required surgery. But Lachey is superior to Taylor during game time.

 

[Covington Saint]

Tyler Warren and Mason Taylor

 

[SweetT]

I'm all about double dipping at TE innthis draft.

I would prefer a scenario like this:
9: Jeanty
40: Fannin Jr.
71: Helm or Taylor.

HFJr brings that juice to the TE position and Helm is a complete TE.

Another option after taking Fannin at 40, is to get Lachey or Ferguson later. Even the TEs out of Ga Tech and ND are complete TEs.

I could get down with that. I just like Warren bc of his versatility. Dude is a baller. Just goes out there and does whatever the coaches need him to do. I salivate at the thought of having him and TH7 on the field at the same time.

 

[Snakehead]

I could get down with that. I just like Warren bc of his versatility. Dude is a baller. Just goes out there and does whatever the coaches need him to do. I salivate at the thought of having him and TH7 on the field at the same time.

My ideal scenario is this:
9. Jeanty
40. Fannin Jr.
71: Savion Williams

Savion Williams and Fannin Jr can rush the ball, do end around, etc. I've seen highlights of Fannin Jr returning kicks and I think Savion can as well. Savion can also throw the ball 80 yards as a former QB.

Both of those guys look like super sized RBs with the ball in their hands.

I can't wait to see what Savion's measurements are. At 6'5" 225lbs, he's not long legged, he has juice and moves like a 6' RB. I think he's going to have a long wingspan/arms and huge hands just by how he looks on the field and with the ball.

 

[dennisrwood]

One of Warren or Mason and then Gunnar Helm.

 

[IlovemySaints]

Ah, gotcha. I knew I remembered something to do with Saints/Bowers and a trade.

Side note, That would likely have been Saints getting #19 and #39 with the Rams getting #14 and maybe a 6th or 7th round pick.
Would be awesome to pull off that kind of trade this year. Any two for one deal would excite me. Five top 100 picks in this draft
which is deep at a LOT of our positions of need is ideal. I'd even be cool with packaging our 4th round picks to move back up into
the 3rd round giving us 6 top 100 picks. We need a big dose of young high-end talent across the whole roster.

We need top 10 talent it’s time to stop kidding ourselves

 

[Snakehead]

We need top 10 talent it’s time to stop kidding ourselves

You are right, but drafting a player who is not top 10 talent just to say you added top 10 talent to the roster is not the right thing to do.

I've did a couple hundred mocks across the different simulators and we can completely revamp the D-line while also adding a play maker like Jeanty at 9 instead of reaching for a DT.

 

[IlovemySaints]

You are right, but drafting a player who is not top 10 talent just to say you added top 10 talent to the roster is not the right thing to do.

I've did a couple hundred mocks across the different simulators and we can completely revamp the D-line while also adding a play maker like Jeanty at 9 instead of reaching for a DT.

Iam for that ….. basically what I’ve been getting at

 

[Jesse Custer]

This draft is pretty deep at RB, TE, DT, S, and OG. It's not as deep as I'd like at WR, but there are some intriguing prospects who can be snagged in the later rounds. I'm high on Bech if we miss out on Tet. He's still got that Alpha mentality we've been missing since CGM's unfortunate injury and subsequent downward spiral.

 

[ELLIASJWILLIAMS]

Tyler Warren is a man amongst mice on that football field. He's super aggressive with the catch. He plays extremely angry as well. He runs the ball exactly like Taysom Hill once its in his hands. For this reason Penn State used a lot of TE screens to him. He's a complete "Go get it" when the ball is in the air, and quite honestly, Drew Allar probably wouldn't even be a known name without Tyler Warren. He can also run block. To top that off. Imagine a younger Travis Kelce, who ran as angry as Taysom Hill when he caught the ball. That's Tyler Warren. He can find the soft spot in zones and just sits, waiting for the catch and people can't outplay him for it. One handed grabs? Sure. Runs like Taysom Hill? yup. Always finding ways to get open? That too. Dependable hands? Of Course.

He really is a complete game changer for an offense.

Mason Taylor is just simply a good TE but not something to build an offense around. His ceiling is more like LaPorta for the Lions. Tyler Warren can quite literally put the offensive passing game on his back and carry the team, as well as help out significantly in the run game with his blocking.

On top of that, Luke Lachey is a better TE than Mason Taylor. Taylor is known because of LSU and Lachey is not because he's from Iowa with an awful QB and missed the 2023 season with an ankle injury that required surgery. But Lachey is superior to Taylor during game time.

So you're saying Warren is in the same rare air as Brock Bowers?

 

[la. champ1]

Warren with a worse QB than Taylor put up double the receptions and yardage, four times the touchdowns, and averaged 2 more yards per reception.

Taylor's a nice prospect, but Warren looks like a gamebreaker.

True but Penn State had zero receivers worth anything this year. Warren was number one option and the entire pass game. Mason had to share four capable talented receivers and a freak freshman TE. Mason was capable of having 1000 yards and can do it all. Make the easy catch, difficult catch, run routes and block. Don’t know if he’s as fast as Warren or not though.

 

[JackDiesel]

Considering our willingness to pass on Brock Bowers last year, I suspect the organization doesn’t value TE as a position worth using a high draft pick on. This knowing Bowers was a generational level talent.

Warren nor Taylor are in Bowers stratosphere, I doubt they’ll take the former early, but I could see them taking the latter if he’s available in a later round

Considering Allen didn't even make it through the year I'd say it's a cuationary tale.

Also you're talking about passing on a generational TE for someone they saw as a left tackle. Arguably the 2nd most important position in the NFL. And TBH ever since we've started to run up against the salary cap and haven't been able to fill needs in FA and have had to do it in the draft, the quality of our draft classes has substantially dropped.

 

[Turfie]

As a PSU fan I never thought Warren had a quick step.

 

[3ParStillDriver]

So you're saying Warren is in the same rare air as Brock Bowers?

I think he's actually better. Think all the way back to when Jeremy Shockey was drafted. The two are very alike in many ways. The difference is Warren has a knack for finding the soft spot in zones better than Shockey and better hands. But Shockey used to run the ball super angry like Taysom Hill/Pacheco once he got the ball in his hands until injuries took over his sophomore year with the Giants due to a knee injury. After that Shockey with the ball in his hands less violently and over the years even became less of a "go get it" guy.

If you wanted me to pick someone Tyler Warren is like. He goes up and gets the ball like Steve Smith when with Panthers, runs routes like Travis Kelce, and runs the ball like Taysom Hill while having hands like Marques Colston.

He's quite literally the full package and the only thing that can derail him being a HOF'er will be injuries, but he seems to stay healthy despite being heavily involved in college.

He IS the best pass catcher in this draft, way better then T-Mac. I couldn't believe drafts had him mocked in the 2nd/3rd round at the end of college season. Feels like it took forever for general mock drafts to get their heads out of their butts and move him closer to where he'll be drafted which is now early teens. But its still a bit lacking in thought. He's likely going top 10.

 

[dutar76]

Tyler Warren is a man amongst mice on that football field. He's super aggressive with the catch. He plays extremely angry as well. He runs the ball exactly like Taysom Hill once its in his hands. For this reason Penn State used a lot of TE screens to him. He's a complete "Go get it" when the ball is in the air, and quite honestly, Drew Allar probably wouldn't even be a known name without Tyler Warren. He can also run block. To top that off. Imagine a younger Travis Kelce, who ran as angry as Taysom Hill when he caught the ball. That's Tyler Warren. He can find the soft spot in zones and just sits, waiting for the catch and people can't outplay him for it. One handed grabs? Sure. Runs like Taysom Hill? yup. Always finding ways to get open? That too. Dependable hands? Of Course.

He really is a complete game changer for an offense.

Mason Taylor is just simply a good TE but not something to build an offense around. His ceiling is more like LaPorta for the Lions. Tyler Warren can quite literally put the offensive passing game on his back and carry the team, as well as help out significantly in the run game with his blocking.

On top of that, Luke Lachey is a better TE than Mason Taylor. Taylor is known because of LSU and Lachey is not because he's from Iowa with an awful QB and missed the 2023 season with an ankle injury that required surgery. But Lachey is superior to Taylor during game time.

I understand the "team, QB, or scheme held this skill player back in college" narative. It was the case made for Mike Thomas coming out of Ohio State. But I dont see how it really fits with Lachney vs Taylor.

For one thing, missing a year of football to injury is more of a red flag than it is a legitimate excuse for lack of production... and for saints fans thats a big worry. Also, the same can be said for Taylor being in an offene that is very much centered around its all-world WRs, and the TE is asked to mostly do the dirty work on third downs when the early down shot plays didnt work.

I'd take Taylor a lot sooner than I would Lachey right now. Maybe the combine shows something different, but what Ive seen of Taylor shows that he is still an ascending player. I dont think he's peaked yet.

And as far as your player comp... I'll take a LaPorta at TE any day and twice on draft day. Sure Id like a Kelce, but the main thing that sets him apart to me is target volume. His hayday was when the chiefs had him and ty hill. Defenses had to pick their poison on every snap.

This is the draft to upgrade your TE. It would be a shame of we didnt walk away with at least one of them. And yeah, I'd be cool with Lachey or Taylor if we dont get Warren or Loveland.