N/S Tyreek Hill arrested for traffic violation by stadium in Miami on gameday (Hill played) [Reckless driving & seatbelt charges dismissed] (2 Viewers)

[guidomerkinsrules]

I don't know the law, but I think it should be illegal to roll the window up when pulled over no matter what the infraction.

Cops shouldn't have to guess whether you're grabbing a weapon.

And quite frankly, knowing it was Tyreek Hill would not put my mind at ease if it was the cop. Hill is a criminal and unstable.

Lose the attitude and stop acting like an entitled jackass and comply with simple instructions.

As for detaining the other two. Stay the hell out of it. Cops don't need you crowding around.

Again it comes back to simply not being able to follow simple commands. It's like some people just have to be arses to cops.

About 90 percent of police shootings wouldn't even happen if the idiot just listened to the cop.

I deserved it. Was given a simple order and didn't listen. Shouldn't have gotten hauled in for mouthing off but for not listening sure. There was a crowd and if everyone disobeyed it would be chaos.

It's not about race as much as it's about criminality. Almost all of the "victims" have extensive criminal histories.

This should be a non story IMO. Idiot player temporarily got detained because he's an idiot. Move on.

The other two have no business in trying to calm things down. Get the hell away like the cops said. No one was in danger. Stay out of it. Again, simply can't listen.

I've done stupid things. I've never beat a woman. Some things you don't get second chances from IMO. He burned every bridge he'd ever have with me.

I wouldn't have him on my team and I wouldn't pull for him if my team signed him. I'd root against him every time. He's a loser.

Poster earlier put it succinctly- cops are the professionals in these exchanges, the onus is on them to act professionally; to be PEACE keepers
If a situation escalates and they’ve contributed to the escalation, the responsibility should fall on them

We have not been trained how to act during police encounters (in any official manner), but supposedly they have
The cops escalated that situation
They failed at their job
They should bear the responsibility of consequences

 

[guidomerkinsrules]

Gee.. You mean actually listen to law enforcement??? What a radical thought

Probably my last post on this subject. I love being clowned... No substantive response... But let me clown him


Tells me all I need to know

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[DaveXA]

Poster earlier put it succinctly- cops are the professionals in these exchanges, the onus is on them to act professionally; to be PEACE keepers
If a situation escalates and they’ve contributed to the escalation, the responsibility should fall on them

We have not been trained how to act during police encounters (in any official manner), but supposedly they have
The cops escalated that situation
They failed at their job
They should bear the responsibility of consequences

Precisely. Cops deal with this every day. They are supposed to know what they're doing, have training, have a gun, and have numbers. A given individual who is pulled over may have had less than a handful of interactions with LEOs and have no idea what a proper interaction is supposed to look like. They are absolutely not on equal footing. It's the cop's job to keep themselves under control when interacting with the public. I don't deny that's a challenge, but it comes with the territory.

 

[silverbullet]

Cops are definitely not always the only ones with the guns. But I do agree, there are way too many over emotional, reactionary cops.

You have to have a special demeanor to put up with the trash people they deal with daily and not always be on edge.

 

[DaveXA]

Cops are definitely not always the only ones with the guns. But I do agree, there are way too many over emotional, reactionary cops.

Agreed.

You have to have a special demeanor to put up with the trash people they deal with daily and not always be on edge.

I agree, I'd just say a lot of people they interact with aren't trash. Many are actually decent people from all walks of life. Are some terrible people? Sure, there are terrible cops and great cops (wish there were fewer terrible cops and more great ones) and likewise for the people they come across.

 

[DaveXA]

I assume AFTER he possibly hits and kills someone in a car crash? Forgive me, but that can happen going 60 mph. Not that I’m trying to go against you, but Tyreek could have avoided all of this by just doing certain things.

It depends. Idk what the speed limit was there. 60 in a 40 is a lot different than 60 in a 25 or 30. And remember we're talking about trusting a cop who didn't use radar, but rather eyeballed his speed.

 

[IceHot]

Sounds like someone who’s been in trouble with the law.

You put your life on the line everyday. Then you can chose what is reasonable.

NO I can indeed choose what is reasonable and what is not reasonable because it is I that am acquiescing some of my personal liberty in exchange for security. Dont even begin to equate a cop sacrifice with a soldiers.

If the quality of my life wasnt on the line I would have zero need for cops. It is illegal to kill me, doesnt stop someone from killing me. It is also illegal for someone to kill a cop. What is not illegal is one soldier killing another soldier in the time of war. A cop does not and should not ever command that level of respect.

If you are a cop, you put your life on the line as part of the job you are paid for AND you do so with ALL the other restrictions placed on you. If you cant obey the restrictions then dont enforce the law. Your personal on the job safety does not EVER supersede my liberty. Find another job if you cant get the priorities straight.

 

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[DaveXA]

You do realize most here criticizing the cops have criticized Hill? This just feels like a hollow point, or deflecting.

 

[SweetT]

It depends. Idk what the speed limit was there. 60 in a 40 is a lot different than 60 in a 25 or 30. And remember we're talking about trusting a cop who didn't use radar, but rather eyeballed his speed.

But in the video, the cop had to pick up speed and pass up all of the other cars that passed him, along with Tyreek. Tyreek was well ahead of the other cars. So, to me, Tyreek was obviously speeding to a good degree. Not saying upwards to 100/90/80 etc, but he was moving. It doesn’t take much for those sports cars to fly. Thats why they are engineered that way.

Also, I was once clocked doing 70mph in a 25mph school zone (not during school hours). Got an excessive speeding and attempted vehicle manslaughter charge. Had to work some strings to get the latter thrown out. Never got a speeding ticket after that one

 

[DaveXA]

But in the video, the cop had to pick up speed and pass up all of the other cars that passed him, along with Tyreek. Tyreek was well ahead of the other cars. So, to me, Tyreek was obviously speeding to a good degree. Not saying upwards to 100/90/80 etc, but he was moving. It doesn’t take much for those sports cars to fly. Thats why they are engineered that way.

Of course. I've driven a few myself. You definitely can get up to those speeds in seconds, no question. I'm just saying it depends on prevailing traffic speeds, the posted limits and the gap above those prevailing speeds. Speed variance is what kills more than absolute speeds in local traffic.

I'll also add that as fast as those cars are, their braking is pretty incredible and will slow the car to a stop really quickly. They also handle really well unless you push them to the limit and depending on the car's safety features, it could be really stable, or it could be very difficult to control without a lot of experience.

It's situational and unless it's something really stupid and/or reckless, there are traffic speed cameras that will suffice.

This whole situation was entirely avoidable, first by Hill not speeding, and second by the cops being professionals when interacting with him.

 

[Saint KayBee]

I cannot say what I truly think about Marcellus Wiley and remain a member of this site. I will say that he is an extremely unreliable narrator and leave it at that.

 

[Big_L]

He had a legitimate reason for not rolling the windows all the way down as has been stated by others in this thread. That the cop didn't have the situational awareness to understand this speaks volumes. Cracking the window open enough to have a conversation and pass docs should be sufficient in this situation.

From some cam footage I saw, Hill was driving with his windows down when told to pull over, not lights and sirens, but verbal commands from a motorcycle officer. So the notion of him not complying, etc, goes out the window.

 

[SirLoinSaint64]

MSN

A great read and sums it up for me.

 

[DaveXA]

From some cam footage I saw, Hill was driving with his windows down when told to pull over, not lights and sirens, but verbal commands from a motorcycle officer. So the notion of him not complying, etc, goes out the window.

Interesting, I haven't seen that one. All the more reason this was entirely avoidable.