Underhill article: “Saints moves are telling us what they felt the real problem with the team was last season” (63 Viewers)

[9thwardvet]

I’m not ready to predict a record right now. If we hit on the draft and have a good mix of vets and a starter or two from draft we are on to something. It’s a big if but it can happen. Nobody can scheme for us because even the Saints don’t know what we will look like. Carr is very capable with a run game. Defense needs to stop the run. DA did not play to win games he played not to lose. There is a difference.

 

[DSnfla]

Injuries is an excuse.

Watch the video and tell me what kind of bologna DA had going on with these said “injuries”???

Our problem wasn’t injuries, it was the dude walking around with a visor on. It’s not emotions, this is reality. Welcome

Judging by how DA handled Miller’s “injury”, i question whether some players were indeed actually “injured”. Just saying

So if you break your hand and your WPM typing drops by almost half , braking your hand is just an excuse, you should be able to type just as many WPM as you did with a healthy hand, right?

 

[DSnfla]

I love your enthusiasm, but I just can't see this team doing any better than 5-12 in 2024.

Last yrs team was decimated by injuries and had a poor HC. We lose only 1 player of consequence to FA, make a big upgrade @ S. Hire a very promising HC and staff. And you think we will not do any better than we did last yr???

How do you come to that conclusion ??

 

[SweetT]

So if you break your hand and your WPM typing drops by almost half , braking your hand is just an excuse, you should be able to type just as many WPM as you did with a healthy hand, right?

What does that have to do with the video?
Miller said that he was running full speed and could play. DA decided that he couldn’t. That’s mismanagement. Dude was in the doghouse.

 

[DSnfla]

What does that have to do with the video?
Miller said that he was running full speed and could play. DA decided that he couldn’t. That’s mismanagement. Dude was in the doghouse.

It's a response to the 1st line in your post " Injuries are an excuse"

 

[SweetT]

It's a response to the 1st line in your post " Injuries are an excuse"

It is an excuse. We lost 5 one score games after our 2-0 start. Games that range from late September through mid December. If we were playing that closely, then we could’ve won, had we done some things right. We didn’t, so we lost those games. Not buying the injury excuse. I get it, everyone wants to blame one thing, as the main detractor. There were so many posts on the Gameday board, about in game gaffes, and bonehead in game decisions. 5 of the losses were winnable. We just kept making dumb mistakes

 

[la. champ1]

Injuries certainly matter and made a difference to our season along with scheme and coaching and locker room. That being said we lack talent at a number of spots, youth, and depth.

 

[StudioSaint]

Unless someone says specifically "this was the only problem," give them the benefit of the doubt that when they say something is a problem, they don't mean it's the only problem.

I think that could help clear up some miscommunications and misunderstandings.

 

[bayoumilitia]

Barkley 147yds, Goedert 179yds, Devonte had 79 yds before leaving with a concussion. They more than doubled our total yards 460 to 219 and we still had a shot . Same players, different coaches, we win that gave and go to 3-0 and Nick Siriana is probably fired

 

[DSnfla]

It is an excuse. We lost 5 one score games after our 2-0 start. Games that range from late September through mid December. If we were playing that closely, then we could’ve won, had we done some things right. We didn’t, so we lost those games. Not buying the injury excuse. I get it, everyone wants to blame one thing, as the main detractor. There were so many posts on the Gameday board, about in game gaffes, and bonehead in game decisions. 5 of the losses were winnable. We just kept making dumb mistakes

It's not and excuse it's a reason. Can you not understand how having some of our best players ( And a lot of them) hurt and not playing contributed to us losing games??? Gameday board ??? LOL half of them are inebriated
We lost 5 , 1 score games. Had we been not just healthy , but healthier we very likely could have won a lot of those games. INJURIES MATTER. Even Underhill said it

 

[DSnfla]

Barkley 147yds, Goedert 179yds, Devonte had 79 yds before leaving with a concussion. They more than doubled our total yards 460 to 219 and we still had a shot . Same players, different coaches, we win that gave and go to 3-0 and Nick Siriana is probably fired

The Eagles lost a 1 pt game to ATL and beat GB before us. Even if we did beat them Siriani was NOT getting fired

 

[SweetT]

It's not and excuse it's a reason. Can you not understand how having some of our best players ( And a lot of them) hurt and not playing contributed to us losing games??? Gameday board ??? LOL half of them are inebriated
We lost 5 , 1 score games. Had we been not just healthy , but healthier we very likely could have won a lot of those games. INJURIES MATTER. Even Underhill said it

I’m going to do the whole “hypothetical” like many wants to do. “IF” we ended up winning those 5 games, plus add the 5 games that we won, brings our win total to 10 games, and DA never gets fired in the first place. So, it would be looked at as DA’s best year as a HC. He would still be here and the narrative would be “A 10-7 season, the best since SP’s exit, and is something we can build on”. The injury excuse wouldn’t be that big of a talking point bc everyone would be singing DA’s praises for beating the likes of the Eagles, Falcons, and Commanders. Kellen wouldn’t even be here if that happened. Do you see how this works? Remember that DC4 was going to return if we could’ve won those games. He would’ve had MVS/Pettis at that point and we probably don’t shut AK41 down. This is all hypothetical jargon. We all saw wasted opportunities in those games. If you are making in game mistakes with starters and backups, but still have a chance to win those games, then how is injuries the biggest problem? A 3 month span of different players and the same results. I’ve always said that the main problem was coaching. Everyone knows that I’m the biggest DA hater this side of the Mississippi. He found historical ways to lose games. Our interim HC, was nothing more than a interim guy, trying to do the best he could. If you change the HC, you have, in theory, got rid of the biggest problem. Now, at this point what do you point the finger at, as what the biggest problem is? The injury excuse, is next on the list. If our team was healthy-ish for the whole season, but the same 5-12 record, DA still gets replaced, then what would they say was the reason for the abysmal performance? I need to know bc everyone seems to need an excuse. Personally, I took that 5-12 season for what it was. No one has ever heard me say anything about the rash of injuries. We had chances to win games. We were all there. We do a few things differently, then the results would’ve been different. We sucked as a team, we sucked at coaching, we sucked from a GM standpoint. We basically just sucked. Point blank.

 

[Hedon James]

Last yrs team was decimated by injuries and had a poor HC. We lose only 1 player of consequence to FA, make a big upgrade @ S. Hire a very promising HC and staff. And you think we will not do any better than we did last yr???

How do you come to that conclusion ??

For a guy who's always talking about semantics and context, you sure don't pay much attention to that when it's someone else. Just went straight for the argument didn't you? The emoticon was a clue. He said 2024. Book it....I GUARANTEE it. 2025....I have no idea. I hope you're right, and I think you probably are.

 

[RJ in Lafayette]

Here's the obvious disconnect between those who believe with a really good draft we can compete in 2025 and are optimistic going forward and those who question that we can and are not optimistic. Just how talented are we?

I raise again the questions of just how many blue-chip (top five at their position) and red-chip (top 10 at their position) players we have--especially players 28 or younger. And I just heard part of a podcast (which I usually do not listen to) with Jim Derry and Mike Detillier in which Detillier argues that the Saints have few "core" or foundation players under 29 and disagrees with the organization over how talented we are.

In talking about team talent, depth matters. In talking about a team's future beyond the upcoming season, young core players matter. I am paraphrasing Detillier, but he said on the podcast that in the NFC West, Tampa and Atlanta are clearly better and suggested that we are closer to being the fourth team in the division rather than the second team. I agree.

 

[los226]

If the organization thinks that this team is close then they’re delusional. Sure, they’re better than bottom of the league, but even at full health they’re close to mediocre at best.