Underhill: Saints are interviewing probably 12 coaches (Tracker: officially 7 interviews) [Rapoport: Saints may add more] (7 Viewers)

[sfidc3]

My original point in all of this was, that I don't think being in Philly this year would make Moore more likely to draft Jeanty at #9 since that was a team that already had a great OL, DL, WRs, LBs, etc. and they keep drafting big men in the 1st and got Barkley as a fee agent. But, Jezzy is right that maybe the Boise State connection could make him look more favorably on Jeanty.

Moreover, I'm not saying that you should try to fill RB in free agency, I'm just saying RB is a position that you can get good to great players in free agency and later in the draft. That's much less so for good to great OL and DL. It happens, but it's less common.

But, I do disagree that citing Henry and Barkley doesn't help the argument. That's two HoF RBs in one year that were available in free agency. There have been others in prior years. But, if you think Henry and Barkley are that rare, 4 of the top 10 rushers in the NFL this year were acquired in free agency. The ones that were drafted by their team, other than Jonathan Taylor, are still on rookie contracts. And I think 6 of the top 10 rushers were taken after the 1st round.

But sure, it's dumb to let a great RB, or really any great player, go in free agency. I'm just saying relative to other positions teams often let them go and it's easier to get great players in the draft at RB without taking one in the first round. Which doesn't mean you don't take a RB in round one, but if you are going to take one, especially if you are going to take one in the top 10, you better be damn sure he's a HoF level guy.

I agree about good RB's being a bit more available and I also agree I would almost never take one in the 1st round unless they were an incredible dynamic talent.....I actually feel the same way about the WR position, there are a ton of good/great ones that weren't 1st round picks....

I think the only disagreement we have centers around the good/great label....there are plenty of good RB's that finish in the top 10 a few times or even once in their career, there are very few that do it consistently and are HOF level talents.....I can't think of the last time 2 RB's the quality of Barkley (who I think is the MVP this year) and Henry switched teams.....can you? It's a total anomaly, which is why I don't think it helps your argument.....That's all I'm saying.....

 

[jesusfish]

Thanks for the insights. I thought the rule was amended in 2021 to require “in person” interviews. The below statement is from the NFL Football Operations:

“In 2021, the NFL approved changes requiring every team to interview at least two external minority candidates in person for open head coach and GM positions and at least two external minority candidates — in person or virtual — for a coordinator job.”

The Rooney Rule | NFL Football Operations

operations.nfl.com

I think you are correct. I believe there has to be an in-person interview for HC.

 

[jesusfish]

Is it just me, or does Kellen Moore also kind of have the Malcolm in the Middle syndrome like young Coach Payton, like he could be a cousin.

Both were hot shot coordinators in there first gig, then publicly demoted (lost play calling duties vs fired). Both then rebuilt their playcalling reputation in the NFC East.

Difference is Payton got 3 years of tutelage under Parcells. Moore's HCs since his firing have been less impressive.

And then I know nothing about Moore's leadership and organizational qualities compared to Payton.

 

[SonOfNOLA]

 

[SonOfNOLA]

 

[Steve in Colorado]

Between Glenn and Weaver, I think Weaver has a much better defensive philosophy and better pedigree. I hope he gets a serious look.

 

[RaginSaint93]

I must say this interview process is more broad than the time when Dennis Allen was hired.

 

[SonOfNOLA]

Between Glenn and Weaver, I think Weaver has a much better defensive philosophy and better pedigree. I hope he gets a serious look.

Agreed. Glenn is a very solid candidate and may be more popular, but Weaver appears to have a more successful coaching background. He’s more productive as a DC. The D-Lines of Houston, Baltimore, and Cleveland were also very productive under Weaver as D-Line coach before he was a DC. Huge upgrade for the Saints D-Line and defense if Weaver is hired.

It looks like Weaver could look to a multitude of directions for a good offensive coordinator with ties to Miami, Houston and Baltimore. Whether Kubiak goes to Seattle or if he wants his own guy.

 

[SonOfNOLA]

 

[No2DC]

I must say this interview process is more broad than the time when Dennis Allen was hired.

Really? We brought in several candidates, or maybe I'm thinking about the OC search. Mick usually casts a broad net even if he knows who he wants.

 

[St. Geezy]

I think he’s essentially a Jet, and the Saints already know it.

 

[St. Widge]

Really/ Webrought in several candidates, or maybe I'm thinking about the OC serach. Mick usually cast a broad net even if he knows who he wants.

We brought in plenty guys for OC, but I think we only brought in 5 candidates for the HC last time. IIRC it was DA, Pederson, Moore, Flores, and Glenn.

 

[St. Widge]

I think he’s essentially a Jet, and the Saints already know it.

I'm good with that. If we are going with a defensive HC, I like Weaver better because I like his scheme and the success he has had. I've also heard he is a leader like Glenn, but I don't know if that is true. And I would prefer most of the offensive guys with McCarthy probably on the top of my list. I'm not sure about Kafka, but according to Underhill, he has come close to several jobs and he is one of those guys that people around the league think is a great offensive mind, but fans know nothing about. I think the attraction of Kafka is more that he worked under Andy Reid more than anything he did with Mahomes or Jones. But, he did have Jones looking good for one year. And outside of Barkley they haven't really had much offensive talent until they got Nabers this year. But what will matter in the end is can he run a team and lead a team. And, frankly, nobody really ever knows that until they get the job and only people who have actually interviewed these guys knows if they even have a shot to do it.

 

[Mamba]

I think he’s essentially a Jet, and the Saints already know it.

 

[jboss]

I'm really curious as to what the appeal of Kafka is.