Where Does Derek Carr’s Career Rank in Saints Franchise History? (1 Viewer)

[parlorcitysaint]

As you didn't specifically ask your question in relation to only QBs, I'd put him somewhere in the Walter Thomas range.

 

[Kramer]

Lost once

Dang! I don't know how I missed that. For over 30+ years I thought he was undefeated against AFC teams. Oh well, I stand corrected. Still, with only one loss against AFC teams,Hebert's stats against them is unprecedented and something to behold.

 

[Infoman]

Something like this....

Drew ----- Everyone else ---- Carr ---- An Unexpected wet fart

 

[silverbullet]

Something like this....

Drew ----- Everyone else ---- An Unexpected wet fart---- Carr

Fixed it for you

 

[LAhotsauce]

Carr ranks 2nd in comp %, 8th in passing yards, 6th in wins.

Other than Brees and Hebert, he is the only Saints QB that has 10 or more wins and a winning record as starting QB.

I know he isn't liked because he didn't embrace the city or was a raider or yelled at a WR on TV or whatever reason all the haters hate him,

BUT the truth is he's a MUCH better QB than most of our fans give him credit for.

Brees
Manning
tied at 3rd imho Hebert/Car/Brooks

I would listen to an argument for Hebert or Brooks to be higher than Carr, but that's it.

Carr is a top 5 all time franchise QB for the Saints, which is more a testament to have QB poor we have been (Outside of Brees and Manning) than it is a testament to how great he played as a Saint.

Comp % and yards are really difficult to compare across eras. The short passing game and QBs in general have gotten much more sophisticated these days with all the QB schools. Even in the Brooks era it seemed like every route tree was 15 yards downfield minimum. The worst QBs today will at least have a better comp % than the best ones from the 80s, 90s, and early 2000s.

Carr, in this era, is exactly what he is. Very slightly above mediocre that has never accomplished anything. He does not belong in the top 3 here. Maybe not even top 5.

 

[LAhotsauce]

The team wasn’t trying to be competitive.

Yes they were. The 1978 team and especially the 1979 team had some talent. Especially on offense. Too bad for the '79 team that barely missed the playoffs, Archie had 15 TDs and 20 picks.

 

[El Caliente]

Yes they were. The 1978 team and especially the 1979 team had some talent. Especially on offense. Too bad for the '79 team that barely missed the playoffs, Archie had 15 TDs and 20 picks.

78 and 79 were the two seasons when Manning made the Pro Bowl. Thank goodness he was on the team, who knows how bad those teams would have been without him.

The fact stands, the Mecom owned Saints were not trying to be competitive, they were just an ATM for Mecom.

 

[Vision]

Given the new news about Derek Carr’s shoulder injury, we may have seen Derek Carr throw his last pass in New Orleans (either he loses his job, or gets cut).

If we have indeed closed the book on Derek Carr’s career, where does it rank among previous Saints legends such as Drew Brees, Aaron Brooks, Archie Manning, Bobby Hebert, Mike Buck, John Forcade, Steve Walsh, Wade Wilson, Ian Book, Taysom Hill, Jameis Winston and so on, so forth?

I have him in the top 10, but not top 7.

My list would go in this order:
1) Drew
2) Brooks
3) Manning
4) Hebert
5) Jim Everett
6) Stabler

Derek would be thrown in with the following
Teddy Bridgwater
Forcade
Jameis
Taysom

Right between both Billy Joe's

 

[SaintsFanInNY]

Above Tolliver, below Blake.

 

[BayouSAINTJoe]

Whereever you place it in respects to his predecessors is debatable but....its sure as hell has to be the douchiest era of Saints QBing