Whiffing the Draft has finally shown up (2 Viewers)

[StudioSaint]

B) The Saints are one step above or even with a communist regime when it comes to giving out information. That’s not big news or anything new.

This is one of those type statements that contains two sets of facts that contradict each other.

If the Saints are such extreme oppressors of information getting out, then how did the information you allegedly have make its way to you while not making its way to a single person in sports journalism or one of the millions of social media gossips who consider themselves part of sports journalism?

 

[Super44]

2017 Draft was gangbusters. Since then

Our 1st Round Draft Picks have been :
Marcus Davenport x two #1’s
Cesar Ruiz
Payton Turner

Our 3-6th round picks have been depth contributors and ST players like they at least should be. But our 1st Round picks have been misses. Flat out. You can’t miss that bad that often and sustain Championship Football. Our 1st Round guys can’t get on he field (Davenport and Turner ) or have been reserve level performers ( Ruiz)

2018
- Traded (2) 1st Round Picks for Davenport. Small school freak athlete has been injury prone
No 2nd Rd Pick
3rd TreQuan ( depth WR )
4th Rick Leonard ?? Cut
5th traded
6th Kamrin Moore
7th Will Clapp

2019-
No 1st
2nd - McCoy
4th - CJGJ fell bc of character concerns A+
6th/7th Kaden Ellis / Saquon Hampton / Alize Mack

2020
1st Cesar Ruiz
3rd Zach Baun
5th Trautman
6th traded up for Tommie Stevens and cut him

2021
1st Payton Turner
2nd Pete Werner
3rd Adebo
4th Ian Book
6th Landon Young
7th Kawan Baker

I agree to be real. There is NOT 1 player out of all the players shown, that look like they will be a major type of player to keep long term. Davenport is special when healthy, but Saints are not going to pay him what he thinks he is worth. He will be elsewhere. So take the rest and you have a below average group of players thus far.

 

[Super44]

Turner and Davenport will be fine...you'll see that combo value meal in 2022.

Turner vs Carolina earlier this season is pretty much what to expect. Huge tall DE that moves blockers wherever he wants. Excellent goalline leverage, sack, very aggressive

He and Davenport will be the key to a 2022 championship run.

Ruiz though? I'm putting that all on Zach Strief to fix that mess ASAP.

Neither will be ling term Saints players with their propensity for being injured, more then they are healthy. Hate to burst your bubble, but the Saints are not going to dump a lot of money on Davenport. He will be offered a lot of money to play elsewhere.

 

[Saintamaniac]

Enough of this two firsts nonsense...we traded the next seasons 1st to move up 13 spots to Davenport...a net loss of 1 1st rounder.

Shhhh.....let's sit back and watch this living example of the Dunning Kruger effect on display.

 

[Saint Taysom]

You ever heard of tears of joy? When he got drafted as a 1st round pick he just got a fully guaranteed $12.5M contract. After taxes and agent pay he likely clears $7M and with proper management he is set for life as a 22 year old. I would be crying tears of joy too!

Tears of joy typically come at the end of a long and arduous road… Tears of joy after winning the SuperBowl, or beating cancer, etc… I get it.

Tears of joy after getting drafted (IMO)
is a red flag. Getting drafted is the beginning of the arduous road! Acting like they’ve achieved everything their heart desires by getting drafted can equal that player relaxing and not working as hard moving forward. Ruiz is getting worse! …and I THINK it’s because he feels he’s already done the best he’ll ever do (by getting picked in the 1st round of the NFL Draft).

I get that a lot of folks disagree with me on this… but please, show me some examples of guys getting drafted in the 1st round, breaking down in tears, and then going on to have good careers.

 

[St. Widge]

I thought the general consensus was to wait 3 seasons to see if a pick panned out or not (if the person is still on the team that is). I'll say though, the Cesar Ruiz pick was puzzling at the time. My guess is they thought they could convert him to another position - but I have no inside info on the matter, so who knows

That was the COVID draft. I think it was difficult for teams to get to know players or know what they could do since they could not have private workouts or visits. So, I think that made it extra difficult to project guys to the NFL. They basically had to just go on what they could see on film or over Zoom and that's not the level of information you would like to have in spending lots of money on a 20 to 22 year-old. I think the Saints defaulted to what they tend to know best, OL picks, and maybe they just missed on this one due to lack of information. It made the draft which has always been more of a crap shoot than people want to think into more of an exercise in guessing.

Still, I have some hope that Ruiz can turn it around. It can't help him that he has been playing next to replacement tackles. Maybe as Scorpius suggests, they can try Ruiz at C with McCoy at Guard in training camp.

 

[Andrus]

This is one of those type statements that contains two sets of facts that contradict each other.

If the Saints are such extreme oppressors of information getting out, then how did the information you allegedly have make its way to you while not making its way to a single person in sports journalism or one of the millions of social media gossips who consider themselves part of sports journalism?

I've said this before in other threads that he has posted where he took a lot of flack.,. @REBELMATT is legit and credible. Take that for what it is worth.