Will Khai Harley be the Saints next GM? (1 Viewer)

[Saint Greg]

If Khai gets hired away from us. Do we get the compensatory picks?

We would get two 3rd round picks.

 

[Saint Greg]

I hope he gets hired away by another team to be their GM before Loomis retires. I want a new philosophy that isn't tied to what we're doing now. I know they started it to get the most out of Drew's career, but it didn't work then and hasn't worked since Drew retired.

Same. I'd like to see a great personnel guy brought in as the next GM.

 

[mr.t]

If it came to pass, Miz Benson would get no argument from me. Harley indeed is the who actually manages the cap. Under orders from those above him, of course.

I hope he is the next GM

 

[solarbear88]

I don't know how much he knows about football. Clearly, he is a genius at sports related contracts, but selecting and grooming players and coaches is an art form. I don't think anyone on this forum would really be able to answer the question with any depth of knowledge.

 

[No2DC]

I hope not and that's a not a knock on him. I want someone with a scouting background, plus staying in-house, open us up to repeat past errors.

 

[No2DC]

I don't know how much he knows about football. Clearly, he is a genius at sports related contracts, but selecting and grooming players and coaches is an art form. I don't think anyone on this forum would really be able to answer the question with any depth of knowledge.

It's not his background, and he's basically one of Loomis' proteges. Consider the bios on some standout GMs:
KC: Brett Veach enters his eighth season as the Kansas City Chiefs General Manager and his 18th year in the National Football League in 2024. Veach was named the seventh general manager in Kansas City Chiefs history on July 10, 2017. . . Veach enters his 12th season with the Chiefs after originally joining the club in 2013. He was promoted to Co-Director of Player Personnel prior to the 2015 season after serving two seasons as the club's Pro and College Personnel Analyst (2013-14).
San Fran: John Lynch, former all-pro safety
Rams: Les Snead Les Snead is entering his 13th season as General Manager of the Los Angeles Rams and was hired for the position in February of 2012. . . In 1995, Snead was hired by the expansion Jacksonville Jaguars as a pro scout, where he worked until 1997, when he was hired by the Atlanta Falcons to the same position. In 2009, he was promoted to director of pro/player personnel, where he remained for the following two seasons.
Bills: Brandon Beane was named General Manager of the Bills on May 9, 2017. . . Beane joined the Bills after a 19-year stint with the Carolina Panthers. He served as the Panthers assistant general manager from 2015-16 and played a vital role
in constructing their draft boards from 2012-17. He also evaluated pro and college players and worked closely with the football operations staff on the negotiation of player contracts.

This is a short list of examples, but if Loomis chooses to step aside, I prefer a person with a scout background. I think it's easier to find a financial guy than someone good at evaluating players and potential coaches.

 

[SaintsFan11]

The strategy we’re using isn’t a bad strategy, it’s just being executed poorly, and we’ve had terrible luck with injuries on top of that. We’ve had a couple of all-time excellent drafts, but otherwise we’ve been bad at drafting. Similarly, we’ve had some really all-time great FA signings (Brees, Vilma, DeMario Davis), but we’re not batting with a high average. We just need better talent evaluation, either at the GM level or below.

 

[Cajun Chat]

Was it a great strategy when we had Brees, or is it just mentally we equate everything with that era as great and anything outside of it as “the problem?”

The strategy works, we have just really sucked at picking players and coaches as of late in addition to suffering a historical amount of devastating injuries each year.

It’s not even really a “strategy.” It’s just a different way of managing the books that happens to look different from everyone else’s.

We manage the cap using future dollars, while most teams manage the cap using present dollars. Both management styles face a level of restriction as far as who you can sign, and both management styles face harsh consequences when you pick the wrong people, just with different window dressing.

Brees covered over a lot of personnel blunders and roster construction.

 

[DSnfla]

ML is not going anywhere nor do I think he's the biggest problem. ML will succeed only as far as the HC does because he's not a player personnel guy he's an accountant type GM. He goes out and gets the guys the HC and the player personnel guys want just like he did when SP was here period.

If ML hires a very good to great next HC all of you will be saying " Loomising " again. That said if ML were to move up to a Pres. of football operations position and turn over the GM duties the guy I'd want would be Brian Gaine the Bill's Ast. GM He built a good roster as GM of the Texans and has helped Brandon Beane do the same with the Bills.

 

[SaintKenn]

I agree with this completely. We all knew that DA wasn't the answer, but we were still able to go out and get the QB he wanted and assembled a team around him. No one can predict injuries, which really derailed this team. We've been able to be active in free agency still and go after players this team really wanted, thank goodness we've missed on some though. Can you imagine the shape we would be in with Deshaun Watson?

 

[Saint Greg]

If I could pick anyone right now I would hire Ray Agnew from the Lions. Campbell and Johnson get all of the credit for the Lions success but they have built a great young roster. With a great reputation as a personnel guy, Agnew likely played a large part in that. He may even move the needle on hiring Ben Johnson.