With the 9th Pick in the 2025 draft, who should the Saints select? (merged) (107 Viewers)

@Infoman how about this guy (not at 9) to be the next Taysom?

6538553c6b637ce47c4f1afdcfba76a8.gif
 
Prior to the season-ending injury of David Montgomery, after 13 games Gibbs had 12 TDs.

The same number of TDs as Montgomery, a free agent signing and former 73rd overall draft pick.

The only difference since then has been Gibbs getting almost all the carries (and TDs) in Montgomery's absence.

So, 12th overall or veteran free agent, both produced TDs at the same rate when given equal opportunity. Almost suggests some sort of common denominator...

My eyes (and we all have these) tell me that while the numbers were similar - One of these players is a special talent - and you can build your offense around that talent - while the other, although a nice player - Is not in the same galaxy of a conversation.
 
My eyes (and we all have these) tell me that while the numbers were similar - One of these players is a special talent - and you can build your offense around that talent - while the other, although a nice player - Is not in the same galaxy of a conversation.

Yep. Gibbs is a game-changer, capable of making spectacular plays, and someone you can sell as your signature player. He’s someone that will give defensive coordinators fits, a guy you must account for where he is at on every single play.

Montgomery is VERY good and underrated, mind you, but Gibbs is on a different planet, and this is just year two for him.
 
"Running backs have short careers more often than not and are injury prone. "
Exactly....we have been lucky to have kamara as long as we have. I think this coming season will be his decline era. And we don't have anyone else.

RB's don't have short careers. I posted it somewhere else but look at McCaffrey last year, it was year 7 or 8 and he got the 49ers to the NFC Championship Game. Barkley broke 2k in his 8th year. Henry is mauling defenses in year 9.

That's high production deep into their 2nd contract. Now go look at our first round picks and consider their play in their 2nd contract (if they even reach it). It's Lattimore, Peat and Ruiz. That's it.
 
And as we have this discussion…. Gibbs has 3 TDs tonight…. Leads the league in TDs…. Vikes have no answer, and I believe he was picked 12 overall.

I realize the Lions have a bunch of other pieces….
The Lions are stacked across the board. Best OLine in the league, elite recievers(including LaPorta), elite play caller, and to finish it off Gibbs is great.

But you can build around that I would think.

Notice they figured EVERYTHING ELSE out first then drafted a RB. We are not in that boat we need a complete talent overhaul.

Please name one team in the last 2 decades that started a successful rebuild by centering around a top 10 running back. It does not exist.
 
My eyes (and we all have these) tell me that while the numbers were similar - One of these players is a special talent - and you can build your offense around that talent - while the other, although a nice player - Is not in the same galaxy of a conversation.
But 'your eyes' don't escape the fact that the same Detroit team could equally build their running attack around a player drafted 12th or acquired as a veteran free agent.

But this was just to counter your argument that a player taken 12th overall is the requirement for top end TD production. I honestly think that while Gibbs was considered over drafted at the time, the Lions knew that he fit into their system, could benefit from their run scheme and (of course) the ability of those high end, blue chip OL picks playing in front of him. He was a great pick for the team at the time.

But that definitely doesn't mean it's the rule to go looking for a Gibbs in the first round. As various examples and contradictory evidence shows.
 
Please no to Jeanty. I think he’s super talented and seems to be a great guy, just don’t want a RB that high.
I am seeing a good bit of "experts" thinking he falls to the middle of the first. I would not be terribly mad with Jeanty, but to go RB for us with our first pick would not be ideal. DL or Tetairoa McMillan but I think he will be gone way before us. My first want is Abdul Carter but I have a bad feeling the Panthers will snatch him up. Mykel Williams would be a great second option if Carter is gone.
 
This was also covered and they do…. We have 1st or 2nd round picks at every Oline position save 1…. WTH else are we supposed to do there before we start drafting guys that can actually stay healthy and score points?
This is a great point. We do not need to draft OLine in the first. Unfortunately for us we have plenty of other holes that need to be filled.

WR, TE, DLine, LB, FS, SS
 
This may lock us for a chance to take Tyler Warren. I doubt Jeanty will be there. Im not sure who I would prefer more. Probably Jeanty. But I would be ecstatic at the idea of taking Warren at 9.

The reason is simple. We're probably a handful of players across Dline, LB and S before we're a competent defense. We're 1 passing option from have a decent passing attack without Olave, and Olave comes back then we're in a good spot. I like Warren because he's good at blocking too, runs hard and violent like Taysom Hill, and can operate all over the field, vertical, short, screen passes, etc.

But if we do take Warren, I would really, really hope we're able to take Stabetto in the 2nd/3rd or maybe even Raheim Sanders in the 3rd/4th
 
Last edited:
But 'your eyes' don't escape the fact that the same Detroit team could equally build their running attack around a player drafted 12th or acquired as a veteran free agent.

But this was just to counter your argument that a player taken 12th overall is the requirement for top end TD production. I honestly think that while Gibbs was considered over drafted at the time, the Lions knew that he fit into their system, could benefit from their run scheme and (of course) the ability of those high end, blue chip OL picks playing in front of him. He was a great pick for the team at the time.

But that definitely doesn't mean it's the rule to go looking for a Gibbs in the first round. As various examples and contradictory evidence shows.

Some of you guys simply don't read what I post... I never said it was "required"....

The whole point I am making is to buck this dumb cliché that you have to keep building your lines with fat guys until you have some sort of impenetrable wall on both sides of the ball, before you ever start taking superstar level talent on offense in the draft with high picks... because "YoU havE To buiLD in Da trenCHES fIRst" - And kill this goofy take that somehow you can't build a team around a superstar RB or that taking one in the top 10 is somehow the dumbest thing ever...

WE HAVE ALREADY SPENT AN INSANE AMOUNT OF DRAFT CAPITAL TO BUILD OUR LINES - It's time for that capital to pay off... Not double down on losses....

Nothing I post is done so in an absolute vacuum - So respond with that in mind and read all posts accordingly.

I am using Gibbs as a direct example of why it's not always a bad thing to take a RB fairly high - As it relates directly to Saints current situation, and with the real possibility that Jeanty is the BPA when we draft this year at 9 overall...

I have conceded that the Lions are in a much different situation than the Saints... It's been established that the Lions also invested less draft capital than the Saints have to build their OLine when they started drafting guys like Gibbs, LaPorta, and Williams - which is when they became a real threat to win a SB

I am not trying to create rules... I am trying to debunk the rules too many here have stuck living in their heads.
 
Last edited:
The Lions are stacked across the board. Best OLine in the league, elite recievers(including LaPorta), elite play caller, and to finish it off Gibbs is great.



Notice they figured EVERYTHING ELSE out first then drafted a RB. We are not in that boat we need a complete talent overhaul.

Please name one team in the last 2 decades that started a successful rebuild by centering around a top 10 running back. It does not exist.

Already addressed... not going to keep responding to same points that have already been hashed out - see post above.
 
Already addressed... not going to keep responding to same points that have already been hashed out - see post above.
Sure but you're ignoring the main point.

Every example given are teams that built their rosters first THEN drafted/signed an elite RB.

Name one team in the modern era that build a successful franchise off picking a running back in the top 10.
 
Sure but you're ignoring the main point.

Every example given are teams that built their rosters first THEN drafted/signed an elite RB.

Name one team in the modern era that build a successful franchise off picking a running back in the top 10.

JHC dude... All this has been addressed here - I am not ignoring anything - go back and find my responses to all this... The Saints have 4 out of 5 starters that were already 1st or 2nd round picks

The Saints have literally taken an OL or DL in the 1st or 2nd round every year for the past decade! And nearly all our Oline starters have been taken in those rounds just since 2019....

When then flip are we going to see those guys produce? And how much more capital has to be spent there before we build an offense full of young point scorers that are worth watching on Sunday? Flip Me... How about now?

We have built the LINES already - Stop doubling down on stupid - and start drafting point scorers... That's my take.... full stop.
 
Last edited:

Create an account or login to comment

You must be a member in order to leave a comment

Create account

Create an account on our community. It's easy!

Log in

Already have an account? Log in here.

Users who are viewing this thread

Back
Top Bottom