Opinion Worst Saints Coordinator (offense OR defense) of all time (3 Viewers)

[Mac Man]

Carl Smith gets my vote.

 

[FloridaSaintsFan]

As bad as Carl Smith was, Pete is worse but would like to hear Hebert’s take on that

 

[martymoose32]

DA prolly found Carl Smith's old playbook hidden in a drawer somewhere and is using it!!

 

[blackadder]

Spagnuola was historically bad.

Looing at the fullness of data across career, you have to conclude the Saints staff and the structure Spagnoulo was put in was historically bad. Spagnoulo was scapegoated. Spags left, Saints got even worse. They broke their own record for worst defense of all time in history of the league.

Spags went back to the Super Bowl and still coaches competent defenses. Better than average defenses. He's not perfect and has his flaws, but he has the results in multiple stops. The one season anomaly here was us, not him.

That's what the data say.

 

[blackadder]

Why does Spagnoulo rate so poortly here when after he left there was a one season rebound but then the Saints defense plumbed new depths of terrible with essentially the same players and coaches for 3 straight seasons while Spagnoulo went back to championships?

 

[jesusfish]

Why does Spagnoulo rate so poortly here when after he left there was a one season rebound but then the Saints defense plumbed new depths of terrible with essentially the same players and coaches for 3 straight seasons while Spagnoulo went back to championships?

They didn't. You are misremembering something. They never allowed that many yards again. The defense markedly improved the year after Spags left, then dropped off the next 2 years. The thing that you may be thinking of is in Rob Ryan's 3rd season, he gave up more points per game than Spags' season.

 

[bigdaddysaints]

I am confused. Are we talking about when they were HERE, or for career elsewhere lumped in?

 

[blackadder]

They didn't. You are misremembering something. They never allowed that many yards again. The defense markedly improved the year after Spags left, then dropped off the next 2 years. The thing that you may be thinking of is in Rob Ryan's 3rd season, he gave up more points per game than Spags' season.

I'll have to dig around but I feel like '14,'15 or '16 were all really close to '12 if one didn't surpass 2012. It all blurred together as a run of all time futility.

Point to me was, we kept being bad. Spags moved on and returned to being pretty good, good enough to win Super Bowls.