Draft at least two O-Linemen earlyish (2 Viewers)

There is no team in football that has a starting line with 3 first rounders and a second rounder McCoy, the Saints first pick of the 2019 draft. And the Saints used a first rounder on Ram.
I rarely disagree with your take on things, but there's little difference between the Saints and the Lions approach:-

Taylor Decker LT, 1st
Graham Glasgow LG, 3rd (drafted same year as they took Decker in the first)
Frank Ragnow C, 1st
Kevin Zeitler RG, FA (former 1st round pick)
Penei Sewell RT, 1st

The difference is that the Lions are doing it better. All those skill position players they have are enabled by that line. They made Jamaal Williams into a TD machine, here he just runs into brick walls.
 
I rarely disagree with your take on things, but there's little difference between the Saints and the Lions approach:-

Taylor Decker LT, 1st
Graham Glasgow LG, 3rd (drafted same year as they took Decker in the first)
Frank Ragnow C, 1st
Kevin Zeitler RG, FA (former 1st round pick)
Penei Sewell RT, 1st

The difference is that the Lions are doing it better. All those skill position players they have are enabled by that line. They made Jamaal Williams into a TD machine, here he just runs into brick walls.
Their skilled players are really good. ARSB, Gibbs, and LaPorta are all elite at their positions. Williams is also another 1st rounder with ability. Our skilled players are either aging out or injury prone.
 
Their skilled players are really good. ARSB, Gibbs, and LaPorta are all elite at their positions. Williams is also another 1st rounder with ability. Our skilled players are either aging out or injury prone.
Like I said, their line enables those skill positions to shine. One significantly complements the other.

I'm not sure why everything has to be so binary in these conversations.
 
Like I said, their line enables those skill positions to shine. One significantly complements the other.

I'm not sure why everything has to be so binary in these conversations.
I agree. The OL and skilled players, and coaching, somehow make Goff look like a good QB. Dudes an average QB who has been absolutely blessed everywhere he’s gone. I’m not sure he’s any better than Carr, but dude looks like Joe Montana out there compared to Carr. The Saints are YEARS away from being as talented as the Lions. But Loomis has simply refused to believe it
 
Like I said, their line enables those skill positions to shine. One significantly complements the other.

I'm not sure why everything has to be so binary in these conversations.
Indeed, why not both trench guys and skill positions? We need both. I could be wrong, but isn’t it called BPA? It is NOT called target a player and trade up for him,
 
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We’ve had a very good line for most of that ten years. A couple of misses on personnel and a couple injuries and here we are. I mentioned last night on the game day thread, our starting OL may be back but I don’t think they are really “back.”
Peat (although it took a minute for him to find his groove), RAM & MCcoy have been solid. Fuaga looks to be promising, but i'd rather him go back to his natural position.
It would be ideal if we could find lineman without having to use a 1st round pick.
 
I almost smashed the TV the night he was drafted.

You and me both. In fact, I'm even irritated you reminded me of that draft. I was so incredibly mad they didn't trade up to get Jefferson. It was only like 3 or 4 spots if I remember correctly. Then they take Ruiz while they're were some obvious great players on the board like Brandon Aiyuk, Patrick Queen, Tee Higgins, Winfield Jr. IF they absolutely felt necessary to go with a Guard, Robert Hunt was right there, available. Anyone who watched both Ruiz and Hunt new that Hunt was much better.

I really don't understand what the hell they were thinking in that pick. To this day I wonder if that's the point were Sean knew he needed to get out of New Orleans.
 
I know people won't like this, but I want Jake Majors. I think he could slide to guard, be really good and move to center if McCoy gets injured. McCoy is having a lot of problems staying healthy right now.
 
You and me both. In fact, I'm even irritated you reminded me of that draft. I was so incredibly mad they didn't trade up to get Jefferson. It was only like 3 or 4 spots if I remember correctly. Then they take Ruiz while they're were some obvious great players on the board like Brandon Aiyuk, Patrick Queen, Tee Higgins, Winfield Jr. IF they absolutely felt necessary to go with a Guard, Robert Hunt was right there, available. Anyone who watched both Ruiz and Hunt new that Hunt was much better.

I really don't understand what the hell they were thinking in that pick. To this day I wonder if that's the point were Sean knew he needed to get out of New Orleans.
Payton was the driving force behind drafting Ruiz. He blamed Larry Warford for the playoff loss to the Vikings. Warford also carried a gigantic cap hit that the Saints wanted to get out from under. You also had Michael Thomas coming off of a 149 catch season. Sean seemed pretty comfortable plugging in a Ted Ginn/Emanuel Sanders type as the #2 guy.

The mistake wasn't picking Ruiz, it was giving him a second contract. They should have realized that his best position is center and tried to trade him after his 3rd season.
 
I almost smashed the TV the night he was drafted.

Same. Almost felt like SP was sabotaging us on his way out or something. No idea what he saw there, especially considering we were down to our last opportunity with Brees. The absolute last thing we needed at that time was a developmental interior line prospect with a high pick; just a complete waste of a premium asset at a time we had very few.
 

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