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[saintmdterps]

I am unclear why you don't have me on ignore.

Autism is covered under the DSM V as a pervasive developmental disorder. Kind of beyond a "problem"

 

[Madmarsha]

Autism is covered under the DSM V as a pervasive developmental disorder. Kind of beyond a "problem"

So it doesn't need to be dealt with then. Got it.

 

[Optimus Prime]

Got it.

I never used to even think about the two being connected and never thought it was. But I also, not having children -- and I'm glad this is not something I have to worry about now -- I didn't realize how many more vaccinations there are for kids these days. And we're supposed to be "healthier" but autism never used to be the problem it is now.

Obesity never used to be the problem it is now. So when are we going to start getting healthier? This thread is obvs measles and diet doesn't tie into that; but I believe more and more that the engineering of our food over the last 50 years -- which is probably RFK's overarching focus but we like to get lost in the weeds -- and we keep getting sold a bill of goods about it. And I can't do my own research; but, at this point, who and what am I supposed to trust in "healthcare"?

But now you can only be two things: a complete believer or a complete denyer. Medicine is nuanced, not black and white. And what I've learned about nutrition and after COVID, I got way more questions than I ever had and with no very clear answers on what DOES cause autism, that's what fuels my skepticism.

The insidious thing about most misinformation/conspiracy theories is that there is a small nugget of truth in them

Portion sizes are 2 or 3 times the size they were in 1970. A 'medium' soda today was called a Big Gulp when I was a kid. Our food has stuff in it that other countries have banned. We put sugar in everything. Food is engineered specifically to be more addictive

All concerning and absolutely be seriously looked at and addressed

There are a lot more cases of autism than there used to be

Also disturbing from the article. in 1985 Autism was diagnosed in 1 out of 2500 people. Today it's 1 in 110. What the hell would cause a leap like that??
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/local...side-of-autism-/2011/03/11/ABYhoSS_story.html

So it's natural to wonder why that is. Other articles have said that the vast majority of diagnoses' are made when young at the time the child is getting a bunch of different shots for a bunch of different things. So it's natural to wonder if there is a connection. which has been researched and found to have no connection

Couple that with the fact that science changes and evolves. Things that science said was an absolute fact 20, 50, 100 years ago are no longer facts.

As research and technology changes, improves and evolves things we know are absolute scientific facts today will change. At one point 'science' said that it was impossible for humans to go faster than 50 miles an hour, if they did blood would separate and organs would disintegrate

What current fact will people a hundred years from look back the same way?

We know and do things today that were considered impossible, people decades from now will be doing things that we think are impossible today

There is a distrust in healthcare in general (well earned BTW)

I openly wondered if a pharma company would sit on a cure for something in favor of a daily pill

Disease Cure Question

I actually meant to post this a few weeks ago when the Charlie Sheen broke.A number of people had posted who said that they new some HIV+ people who because of the cocktails they were on were now at undetectable viral levels and living perfectly normal lives.That got me to wondering:Is a...

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And all of that is the playground that conspiracy theorists and bad actors play in

"Maybe in 5 years with better tests/technology it will be discovered that vaccines cause autism after all"

"Maybe in 5 years it will be revealed that the government already knew that vaccines cause autism and have been covering it up"

And those maybes are the fuel that keep the engine running

This was the response to my autism question

Also disturbing from the article. in 1985 Autism was diagnosed in 1 out of 2500 people. Today it's 1 in 110. What the hell would cause a leap like that??

That the rise in incidence is mostly or completely an artifact of increased surveillance and broadening of the definition of autism.

In the 1990′s the diagnosis of autism was changed to autism spectrum disorder (ASD) – the new name reflecting the changing concept of autism to include a broader spectrum of symptoms, including much more subtle manifestations. In particular a diagnostic entity known as Aspergers syndrome, which is essentially a subtle manifestation of autism features, was classified as part of ASD. Any time you broaden a category the number of individuals that fit into that category is likely to increase.

Autism researcher Eric Fombonne found that:

Recent epidemiological surveys of autistic disorder and other PDDs have heightened awareness of and concern about the prevalence of these disorders; however, differences in survey methodology, particularly changes in case definition and case identification over time, have made comparisons between surveys difficult to perform and interpret. (Fombonne 2005)

In addition to the broadening of the diagnosis, the social and medical network supporting ASD dramatically increased. There has been increased efforts at surveillance – scouring the community for hidden cases of autism. Further, parents have become much more accepting of the diagnosis, which may partly be due to the fact that is some states the label with facilitate access to special services. And clinicians have become more knowledgeable of ASD so are better able to make the diagnosis, even in subtle cases.

Rutter, in order to test this latter hypothesis that increased diagnostic rates were due largely to changes in diagnosis and surveillance, reviewed literature that contained sufficient information to assess true historical rates of autism. He found that applying modern criteria to these historical records yields similar rates of diagnoses: 30-60 per 10,000. Taylor did a similar review and found the following:

The recorded prevalence of autism has increased considerably in recent years. This reflects greater recognition, with changes in diagnostic practice associated with more trained diagnosticians; broadening of diagnostic criteria to include a spectrum of disorder; a greater willingness by parents and educationalists to accept the label (in part because of entitlement to services); and better recording systems, among other factors. (Taylor 2006)

The Increase in Autism Diagnoses: Two Hypotheses

A new study sheds more light on the question of what is causing the recent increase in the rate of diagnosis of autism. Professor Dorothy Bishop from the University of Oxford studied adults who were d

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Autism and the law

Any thought about this article? I don't know a whole lot about autism but from what I understand some extreme cases can freak out if you touch them or if you wear something plaid or whatever. Should that be taken into account if an assault occurs? I think so, I don't think that they should be...

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[Optimus Prime]

To your point- took kids to Europe for first time in 2022.

Soon as we got off plane one wanted Dr Pepper, other a Coke. So hit up a small store in airport.

They both took cap off and took swig. At same time, both looked at the bottle then us and were like " i think this is bad- doesnt taste right"

Well yes kids. See High Fructose Corn Syrup is BANNED in Switzerland ( and other EU countries ) so look at label- its pure sugar. ( usually cane or beet sugar )

they actually liked it better after 2-3 days vs domestic.

When you travel one of the first things you notice is how much less sweet everything is, even candy

Gotta say I prefer it that way

 

[bigdaddysaints]

Back in the day they used to lock people up in mental asylums becuase they didn't really know what was wrong with them, so they must me mentally insane or had schizophrenia, but the truth is, a lot of those people had stuff like autism and conditions of that nature, they just didn't know. even though some of the conditions were known, most places didn't have the capabilities to test and just lumped them all in. So of course now that it is diagnosed profiently, it has now become "vaccines cause autism" instead of science is better.. smh

 

[Madmarsha]

The insidious thing about most misinformation/conspiracy theories is that there is a small nugget of truth in them

Exactly. And the last four years conditioned us to not question "misinformation".

Portion sizes are 2 or 3 times the size they were in 1970. A 'medium' soda today was called a Big Gulp when I was a kid. Our food has stuff in it that other countries have banned. We put sugar in everything. Food is engineered specifically to be more addictive
was called a Big Gulp when I was a kid. Our food has stuff in it that other countries have banned. We put sugar in everything. Food is engineered specifically to be more addictive

And what has been done to our food is a great example. And what -- if anyone cares to admit what nugget of truth there is in the "conspiracy theory" about our diets -- is at the core of a lot of today's ills. But there will never be a consensus of this among "experts" so I have to believe what I believe. "Oh, then yer stoopid." Fine, I guess I'll remain stupid figuring things out for myself.

 

[SystemShock]

I am unclear why you don't have me on ignore.

I don't have anyone on ignore.

 

[SystemShock]

Back in the day they used to lock people up in mental asylums becuase they didn't really know what was wrong with them, so they must me mentally insane or had schizophrenia, but the truth is, a lot of those people had stuff like autism and conditions of that nature, they just didn't know. even though some of the conditions were known, most places didn't have the capabilities to test and just lumped them all in. So of course now that it is diagnosed profiently, it has now become "vaccines cause autism" instead of science is better.. smh

And if you go further back, they were burned at stakes.

 

[SystemShock]

17th century - The Enlightenment.
21st century - The Dimming.

 

[Madmarsha]

So of course now that it is diagnosed profiently, it has now become "vaccines cause autism" instead of science is better.. smh

I'm all for science ... until the scientists start blatantly lying. Then I have to decide which scientist is lying to me and which one isn't. Perfect breeding ground for conspiracy theories when we didn't really need anymore compost. Science and medicine aren't black and white.

 

[The Nomad]

A vaccine skeptic who has long promoted false claims about the connection between immunizations and autism has been tapped by the federal government to conduct a critical study of possible links between the two, according to current and former federal health officials.


The Department of Health and Human Services has hired David Geier to conduct the analysis, according to the officials, who spoke on the condition of anonymity for fear of retaliation. Geier and his father, Mark Geier, have published papers claiming vaccines increase the risk of autism, a theory that has been studied for decades and scientifically debunked.


David Geier was disciplined by Maryland regulators more than a decade ago for practicing medicine without a license. He is listed as a data analyst in the HHS employee directory.

Public health and autism experts fear that choosing a researcher who has promoted false claims will produce a flawed study with far-reaching consequences.

They fear it will undermine the importance of the lifesaving inoculations and further damage trust in the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

The government’s premier public health agency has stressed vaccination as the safest and most effective measure to control the spread of some contagious diseases, including the growing measles outbreak in Texas and New Mexico.

“It seems the goal of this administration is to prove that vaccines cause autism, even though they don’t,” said Alison Singer, president of the Autism Science Foundation, a nonprofit organization that funds autism research. “They are starting with the conclusion and looking to prove it. That’s not how science is done.”…….

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2025/03/25/vaccine-skeptic-hhs-rfk-immunization-autism/

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[The Nomad]

I'm all for science ... until the scientists start blatantly lying. Then I have to decide which scientist is lying to me and which one isn't. Perfect breeding ground for conspiracy theories when we didn't really need anymore compost. Science and medicine aren't black and wh

I'm all for science ... until the scientists start blatantly lying. Then I have to decide which scientist is lying to me and which one isn't. Perfect breeding ground for conspiracy theories when we didn't really need anymore compost. Science and medicine aren't black and white.

Are there many instances of scientists lying?

 

[TheRealJRad]

Are there many instances of scientists lying?

I mean it's pretty much why peer review exists, right? Science is science, math is math, if there's a mistake someone's gonna find it fast.

 

[kcirdor]

I am curious as to why the dirty needle/buttsects virus is a scheduled childhood vaccine?