Measles outbreak tracker

[Eeyore]

I am unclear why you don't have me on ignore.

The answer is because you're all figments of my imagination and it's more fun when you interact.

 

[cpg]

I am curious as to why the dirty needle/buttsects virus is a scheduled childhood vaccine?

I can tell you the reason we were given in nursing school is because of mother-infant transmission at birth. Also, a sad reality is that it protects babies in the event of abuse from having lifelong liver complications.

 

[kcirdor]

I can tell you the reason we were given in nursing school is because of mother-infant transmission at birth. Also, a sad reality is that it protects babies in the event of abuse from having lifelong liver complications.

Well I can understand mother/infant but how would the baby get the vaccine if its pretty much infected from conception? Is it just something to help fight off the infection? Is vaccinating while already infected a thing? And the second part... so it's only in case of if the child could be abused that they would need it?

Ok, I'm more confused on that one. The other ones make sense as to why we need them, that one makes none.

Are there many instances of scientists lying?

some

https://www.science.org/content/article/researchers-plan-retract-landmark-alzheimers-paper-containing-doctored-images

The Corrupt History Of The Food Pyramid - Chief Nutrition

Here's a review of the Food Pyramid from Dr Paul Mason. We've included the transcription below the - Chief Nutrition

wearechief.com

Unethical human experimentation in the United States - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[The Nomad]

Well I can understand mother/infant but how would the baby get the vaccine if its pretty much infected from conception? Is it just something to help fight off the infection? Is vaccinating while already infected a thing? And the second part... so it's only in case of if the child could be abused that they would need it?

Ok, I'm more confused on that one. The other ones make sense as to why we need them, that one makes none.



some

https://www.science.org/content/article/researchers-plan-retract-landmark-alzheimers-paper-containing-doctored-images

The Corrupt History Of The Food Pyramid - Chief Nutrition

Here's a review of the Food Pyramid from Dr Paul Mason. We've included the transcription below the - Chief Nutrition

wearechief.com

Unethical human experimentation in the United States - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

I don't see how the government's experiments on people fit the lying scientist criteria, it is its own failure of government. We all knew there would be some, but many? I don't think so.
Was there peer review of the food pyramid guy that brought his conclusions into question? It reads like he was selective as far as study subjects, sometimes excluding subjects (or entire countries) that he felt would not show the results he had predetermined.

 

[cpg]

Well I can understand mother/infant but how would the baby get the vaccine if its pretty much infected from conception? Is it just something to help fight off the infection? Is vaccinating while already infected a thing? And the second part... so it's only in case of if the child could be abused that they would need it?

Ok, I'm more confused on that one. The other ones make sense as to why we need them, that one makes none

Yes, idea is that it would still help even after the birth. And even if the mother is negative for hep B at birth.

I can say that I got this question wrong so many times in OB that I won’t ever forget it again, because I also thought it was strange.

 

[kcirdor]

I don't see how the government's experiments on people fit the lying scientist criteria, it is its own failure of government. We all knew there would be some, but many? I don't think so.
Was there peer review of the food pyramid guy that brought his conclusions into question? It reads like he was selective as far as study subjects, sometimes excluding subjects (or entire countries) that he felt would not show the results he had predetermined.

government motivation? novel concept.

 

[The Nomad]

government motivation? novel concept.

Are you saying these experiments were unknown to the government? I'm reminding you that the military is part of the federal government.

 

[kcirdor]

Are you saying these experiments were unknown to the government? I'm reminding you that the military is part of the federal government.

Maybe you meant Industry motivation an even bolder concept


Cha-Ching
Call the doc if it lasts longer then 4 hours.

 

[The Nomad]

Oh, I see now

 

[Tapxe]

what has been done to our food is a great example. And what -- if anyone cares to admit what nugget of truth there is in the "conspiracy theory" about our diets -- is at the core of a lot of today's ills. But there will never be a consensus of this among "experts" so I have to believe what I believe. "Oh, then yer stoopid." Fine, I guess I'll remain stupid figuring things out for myself.

I've thought abt this a bit. The upside to the grocery stores prices is local farmers can compete. Yes it costs a bit more, but it's driving some neat innovations like container farms making a city block as productive as 70+ acres.

Yes it costs more. I prefer to think of it as I will eat less with more nutrition bc I am worth it. Simple choice to me. Eat fresh, local if possible and feel good or indulge until it diseases me.

 

[DaveXA]

I'm all for science ... until the scientists start blatantly lying. Then I have to decide which scientist is lying to me and which one isn't. Perfect breeding ground for conspiracy theories when we didn't really need anymore compost. Science and medicine aren't black and white.

Two thoughts, there are a lot of people out there who claim to be scientists and aren't. Second, peer review is usually and thankfully pretty effective in weeding out the pretenders.

I would say, seek out peer-reviewed studies written by legitimate scientists who are experts in the subject matter being written about. You do that and you're off to a pretty good start in reading up on the subject that interests you.

 

[cpg]

Peer review is absolutely not without its flaws. The amount of bias that saturates the process has caused serious issues in certain fields and outright failed in the case of the Amyloid Hypothesis that incorrectly guided Alzheimer's research for 16 years. During that period, it was the most frequently cited paper on the subject. Reviewers missed obvious red flags and played gatekeeper to those with challenging ideas. There's dirty pool involved in the peer review process at times, and it should not be considered sacrosanct. It's an invaluable tool, but it's not an infallible one.

 

[SystemShock]

Peer review is absolutely not without its flaws. The amount of bias that saturates the process has caused serious issues in certain fields and outright failed in the case of the Amyloid Hypothesis that incorrectly guided Alzheimer's research for 16 years. During that period, it was the most frequently cited paper on the subject. Reviewers missed obvious red flags and played gatekeeper to those with challenging ideas. There's dirty pool involved in the peer review process at times, and it should not be considered sacrosanct. It's an invaluable tool, but it's not an infallible one.

It isn't infallible, but it's the best we have. Look where we are now compared to just 10 years ago, or 20, or 50.

And it is certainly better than Facebook chats exalting the benefits of drinking a teaspoon of Drano to cure cancer, and a bunch of idiots agreeing.

 

[cpg]

It isn't infallible, but it's the best we have. Look where we are now compared to just 10 years ago, or 20, or 50.

And it is certainly better than Facebook chats exalting the benefits of drinking a teaspoon of Drano to cure cancer, and a bunch of idiots agreeing.

No argument from me.