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Say, anyone notice that a crazy dictator who runs a country that is essentially one giant criminal mob is attacking a neighboring democracy?
Just sayin.'
Just sayin.'
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I'm trying to figure out the significance of Putin "recognizing the independence" of those two regions they're talking about in the news.
See above.All the stories read as if everyone already knows what that means. What does it mean... and why is it a further sign he's about to invade Ukraine?
If we don't respond, he's going to continue to expand their reach in to additional democracies in an attempt to destabilize the West, making it harder to stop his mob-nation from bleeding dry the citizens of Russia and any occupied territories.They cite the headline, then move on to what the US is doing in response. But WHHHHY does that warrant a response? It's driving me a little batty not understanding it.
I guess if "support international democracy" vs. "don't care" is political, you may be right.I know there's a thread about Ukraine on MAP. I lurk there sometimes and have seen it. I guess the big issue with being on the EE is how politically charged the discussions get.
I'm not saying there's anything wrong with starting a thread here. I agree its something that can be discussed, but people would need to check their political party alliances at the door, because this can easily get driven down into a politics sheet hole. I like your approach of "support international democracy" and hopefully the discussion can stay within those bounds.I guess if "support international democracy" vs. "don't care" is political, you may be right.
I see it as more moral and philosophical, but I looked for the moral and philosophical board and I just couldn't find it, so I went with EE.
I see. I didn't quite understand why his declaration (that he sees them as independent) means anything. Just because he sees them this way, does it mean they ARE? And how does it factor into his invasion? Does it mean he will leave them alone? I should've been paying more attention.Live CNN update -- he issued the order to move in.
February 21, 2022 Ukraine-Russia news
Tensions between Moscow and Kyiv are at their highest in years, with a large Russian troop buildup near the shared borders of the two former Soviet republics. Follow here for the latest news updates.www.cnn.com
Imagine that Wisconsin and Minnesota had a reasonably-sized but minority population of ethnic Candians. Canada had been supplying separatists who wanted to secede and join Canada. Suddenly Canada puts 200,000 troops on the border and recognizes Wisconsin and Minnesota as independent countries.
See above.
If we don't respond, he's going to continue to expand their reach in to additional democracies in an attempt to destabilize the West, making it harder to stop his mob-nation from bleeding dry the citizens of Russia and any occupied territories.
You might remember perhaps Europe in 1939 and 1940.
You're going to have to narrow that down.Say, anyone notice that a crazy dictator who runs a country that is essentially one giant criminal mob is attacking a neighboring democracy?
Just sayin.'
Ah crap., I thought Canada was safe since your last electionYou're going to have to narrow that down.
Canada is attacking the US????Say, anyone notice that a crazy dictator who runs a country that is essentially one giant criminal mob is attacking a neighboring democracy?
Just sayin.'
Just put your hands up and accept that the CFL is the promised land.Canada is attacking the US????
If we don't respond, he's going to continue to expand their reach in to additional democracies in an attempt to destabilize the West, making it harder to stop his mob-nation from bleeding dry the citizens of Russia and any occupied territories.
You might remember perhaps Europe in 1939 and 1940.
My understanding is those 2 areas have had some form of continuous conflict between Ukrainian forces and the Russian separatists. Now that Putin says Russia is recognizing their independence, it opens the door for his invasion. He has ordered Russian troops into those areas as “peacekeepers“. But to the West, once Russian forces cross the border, they’re invading Ukraine because it’s Ukrainian territory. And since those areas have been in continuous conflict, Russian troops being there will make it easy to say they were targeted by the Ukrainian forces and therefore justify Putin’s military actions against Ukraine.I see. I didn't quite understand why his declaration (that he sees them as independent) means anything. Just because he sees them this way, does it mean they ARE? And how does it factor into his invasion? Does it mean he will leave them alone? I should've been paying more attention.
My understanding is those 2 areas have had some form of continuous conflict between Ukrainian forces and the Russian separatists. Now that Putin says Russia is recognizing their independence, it opens the door for his invasion. He has ordered Russian troops into those areas as “peacekeepers“. But to the West, once Russian forces cross the border, they’re invading Ukraine because it’s Ukrainian territory. And since those areas have been in continuous conflict, Russian troops being there will make it easy to say they were targeted by the Ukrainian forces and therefore justify Putin’s military actions against Ukraine.
This is how I understand how this can all play out. Oh and don’t think China isn’t watching all of this considering their desires to invade Taiwan.