Ukraine (46 Viewers)

[efil4stnias]

What’s most disturbing is not just the cutting off our intel to Ukraine but providing it to Russia against Ukraine.

Basically assisting their preference for civilian targets.

Trump just now said close to lifting intelligence ban

And UAF are rumored to be leaving Kursk.

Not a coincidence imo

 

[efil4stnias]

Well isn’t this the second time Europe has been fooled ? Russia invaded Ukraine back in 2014, and not much changed.

When Russia invaded in 2022, there was lots of talk but little action in the military front, With a few exceptions such as Poland,

Fool me three times, and I can’t get fooled again (cuz I’m dead)

I think back to late 2021, early 2022 and I think there was a disbelief Putin would actually invade up until he did. I think all thought diplomacy was the route to take but it didn't work.

Wasn't the title of this thread actually " hey anyone paying attention ...."? Lol

Couple that with Biden in office and NATO had a rightful sense of security. Then the election came and everything changed in a matter of 30 days.

The worst part is the complacency that sits in after years and years of peace. Countries have domestic issues to tackle and military spending, in peace time, is a very hard sell, politically. We know all about that.

That's all been turned on it's head.

But believe you me, a decade AFTER this whole war is settled, countries will fall into that complacency trap yet again. It's inevitable.

 

[efil4stnias]

Any word now coming from Administration about "restarting" aid ( military ) to Ukraine is a lie.

 

[SoggyBottomBoy]

Any word now coming from Administration about "restarting" aid ( military ) to Ukraine is a lie.

Whisky Tango Foxtrot?!!

 

[efil4stnias]

Whisky Tango Foxtrot?!!

yes. they have dismantled Rzeszow logistical hub.

Planes have been delivering aid there for 3 years.

Plane-Spotting NATO’s Logistics Hub for Ukraine – Little Polish Airport, Lots of Big US Cargo Planes

It’s purely speculative that all the C-5 Galaxies, C-17 Globemasters and 747-400s thudding down at Rzeszów are loaded with artillery ammo. But clearly Washington is seriously behind the operation.

www.kyivpost.com

 

[DaveXA]

yes. they have dismantled Rzeszow logistical hub.

Planes have been delivering aid there for 3 years.

Plane-Spotting NATO’s Logistics Hub for Ukraine – Little Polish Airport, Lots of Big US Cargo Planes

It’s purely speculative that all the C-5 Galaxies, C-17 Globemasters and 747-400s thudding down at Rzeszów are loaded with artillery ammo. But clearly Washington is seriously behind the operation.

www.kyivpost.com

People supporting this nonsense can rot for all I care. The ignorance and dereliction of duty of the members Congress responsible for allowing this have blood on their hands.

 

[bigdaddysaints]

I see a lot of "just becuase i don't support Ukraine, doesn't mean I support Putin"
Yes it does. If you are ok with this admin inteninally sabatoging Ukraine, you are wanting Russia and Putin to prevail, period. And if Puting took Ukraine, it would 100% become round 2 of the cold war and the'll try to blame Obama and Bidem...

 

[Consigliere]

Whisky Tango Foxtrot?!!

You could say that about the stock market too.

 

[faceman]

Fwiw, Lindsay Graham one of Trumps staunchest defenders said this.

Sen. Lindsey Graham: A pause in U.S. help for Ukraine could be 'worse than Afghanistan'

“Until we have a ceasefire, I would give Ukraine what they need in terms of intelligence and weapons to defend themselves,” Graham said.

www.nbcnews.com

 

[SoggyBottomBoy]

Fwiw, Lindsay Graham one of Trumps staunchest defenders said this.

Sen. Lindsey Graham: A pause in U.S. help for Ukraine could be 'worse than Afghanistan'

“Until we have a ceasefire, I would give Ukraine what they need in terms of intelligence and weapons to defend themselves,” Graham said.

www.nbcnews.com

We need a lot more of this.

It really is simply common sense. You know, deep down, a lot of the lawmakers recognize the ramifications of the direction this is going. And for the good of the country it's worth it to speak up even though they'll likely face some retaliation. Hopefully, Graham's coming forth will gain some support from others too afraid to speak out.

 

[Zztop]

seems like a case of: the beatings will continue (until you sign away your mineral rights to us)

 

[boutte]

Whisky Tango Foxtrot?!!

Being the Weak Cowards that they are.