Carr wanted to be traded prior to restructure per NOF and CBSsports

[livefromDC]

Right

Even if they use 9 on Dart you’d still have picks 40/71/93/111/131 plus 3 late round picks to use on starters and/or depth.

I can certainly live with coming out of the draft with the QB of the future the team is sold on plus 5-6 starters/contributors to go along with him.

This team needs a young QB and actual depth and contributors: with 9 picks we should be able to accomplish both if they’re smart about it.

Reaching is still reaching. Drafting Dart at #9 doesn't make him a top 10 pick no more than Chicago taking Mitch Trubisky early made him a top 10 pick. The player still has to be worth it.

 

[MikeyF]

This off-season has been like a bizarre contest on “How many different ways to report the same news in a more sensationalized way than the last, in the absence of actual news.”

And just because Nick Underhill needs more clicks for his bank account it is more real...

 

[Hank]

If he didn't want to be here then he should have accepted when the team asked him to take a pay cut. If he thought the team was going to embrace cap hell and not have a starting QB he was sadly mistaken and an idiot to boot.

If he didn't want to be in New Orleans, he needed to work with the team.. He said no and the Saints, rightfully, said enjoy your sack of money because you're a Saint for another year. As I understand it, he didnt like that the Saints restructured his contract. To damn bad. It was the right decision for the Saints.

IMO Carr doesn't have to be a warm and fuzzy community guy--if he wants another team, play great this year with a chip on your shoulder and get the Saints back to the playoffs---if he plays average he wont get much of another chance elsewhere. If he plays greats, the Saints should win more---It's in his best interest to play great

 

[livefromDC]

IMO Carr doesn't have to be a warm and fuzzy community guy--if he wants another team, play great this year with a chip on your shoulder and get the Saints back to the playoffs---if he plays average he wont get much of another chance elsewhere. If he plays greats, the Saints should win more---It's in his best interest to play great

Yep. And that's all there is to it.

 

[DavidM]

Carr had two really good years, better than any QB not named Brees with an OLine only his brother and Archie Manning can understand with a coach only Archie can understand and we hate the guy.

We always said it will be hard for anyone coming after Brees. Most of us won’t be happy with anyone not a future HOL replacement

I agree.

If it’s true that he wanted a trade, I wish he and the team could have worked something out. A potential win-win for both sides. Carr might have found an opportunity to land somewhere that was better set up for him to ride out his career and the Saints could have hit reset at the position as they start a new chapter. It would have required Carr being amenable to helping out on salary.

Hopefully we learn more because the picture on this isn’t clear. It’s never a good situation to enter the start of a new season with a potentially disgruntled QB1. I’m not worried that he’ll be a disruptive presence, but you want a roster of guys working together towards shared goals and a collective future. If your QB1 isn’t feeling like a fixture in that, it’s going to be problematic. That’s not a dig on Carr. He has his interests to look out for and he’s at an age where he knows his career is winding down.

 

[SaintRay]

I’m 1000% over Carr no matter what he does.

Dude doesn’t want to be here and fans don’t want him here.

Saint’s will go nowhere with him, so let’s agree its time to move on,

 

[Rexman100]

In all of the interviews with Carr, did he ever seem disgruntled? I’d imagine if he were interviewed today, he’d most likely not sound disgruntled. Meaning, he’s fine. If I was restructured and guaranteed millions this year, it would be extremely hard to disgruntle me. I think Fans, in their analysis, always leave that part out.

If you can embrace going 0-17 in 2025, without Carr, then you’ll be fine.

 

[Rexman100]

I’m 1000% over Carr no matter what he does.

Dude doesn’t want to be here and fans don’t want him here.

Saint’s will go nowhere with him, so let’s agree its time to move on,

The Saints are 1000% going 0-17 without him. So then what will fans complain about? Who will be the next hate target?

 

[ELLIASJWILLIAMS]

 

[DavidM]

In all of the interviews with Carr, did he ever seem disgruntled? I’d imagine if he were interviewed today, he’d most likely not sound disgruntled. Meaning, he’s fine. If I was restructured and guaranteed millions this year, it would be extremely hard to disgruntle me. I think Fans, in their analysis, always leave that part out.

If you can embrace going 0-17 in 2025, without Carr, then you’ll be fine.

Disgruntled was a word I used and might end up missing the mark, depending on whatever is really going on.

I’ll say it again, I don’t question his professionalism but if it’s true he wanted out, that’s not reassuring heading into a new season. Sure, I’d expect him to keep putting in the work and saying the right things publicly, but pretty much nobody is going to feel great if they think they’ve been relegated to a temporary piece and this is just a breakup being dragged out over a full season. Everybody wants to feel valued. Carr has his pride, too.

It’s entirely possible a lot is being made of all of this and Carr and the team are on good terms. But…there aren’t currently strong reassurances that’s the case.

 

[Rexman100]

Disgruntled was a word I used and might end up missing the mark, depending on whatever is really going on.

I’ll say it again, I don’t question his professionalism but if it’s true he wanted out, that’s not reassuring heading into a new season. Sure, I’d expect him to keep putting in the work and saying the right things publicly, but pretty much nobody is going to feel great if they think they’ve been relegated to a temporary piece and this is just a breakup being dragged out over a full season. Everybody wants to feel valued. Carr has his pride, too.

It’s entirely possible a lot is being made of all of this and Carr and the team are on good terms. But…there aren’t currently strong reassurances that’s the case.

Look at it for what it actually is. The Saints team (players) is like a big family. So at the end of the year, when the head of the family gets fired. The family members start worrying about their position, because the stability was rocked. I say that to say, I bet Carr wasn’t the only one feeling uncertainty. I bet DD, TM, CJ were all feeling like they not make it to the new regime. It turns out, that they all made it. Pressure off. I expect to see DC4s next interview indiscernible from his previous ones. Keeping the core together is the best thing for the team, otherwise, you’re staring at 0-17. I don’t think anyone survives 0-17. Fans should watch out for what they are wishing for, imo.

 

[DavidM]

Look at it for what it actually is. The Saints team (players) is like a big family. So at the end of the year, when the head of the family gets fired. The family members start worrying about their position, because the stability was rocked. I say that to say, I bet Carr wasn’t the only one feeling uncertainty. I bet DD, TM, CJ were all feeling like they not make it to the new regime. It turns out, that they all made it. Pressure off. I expect to see DC4s next interview indiscernible from his previous ones. Keeping the core together is the best thing for the team, otherwise, you’re staring at 0-17. I don’t think anyone survives 0-17. Fans should watch out for what they are wishing for, imo.

Starting quarterback is the most important position on the team and so the wellbeing of that relationship matters a lot more. Especially when you’re dealing with a veteran who, I can safely assume, still sees himself as a starter and cornerstone of a roster. Last season was disappointing for everybody and Carr probably carries more of that, having reunited with his first head coach and it ending the way it did. And getting a lot of blame and backlash from fans when he’s not been the problem on the field.

Our best hope is that either the reporting is embellished or any problems are sorted out and everybody is on the same page. The pieces we have to sort through don’t exactly paint that picture, however.

 

[Saint Spud]

I agree.

If it’s true that he wanted a trade, I wish he and the team could have worked something out. A potential win-win for both sides. Carr might have found an opportunity to land somewhere that was better set up for him to ride out his career and the Saints could have hit reset at the position as they start a new chapter. It would have required Carr being amenable to helping out on salary.

Hopefully we learn more because the picture on this isn’t clear. It’s never a good situation to enter the start of a new season with a potentially disgruntled QB1. I’m not worried that he’ll be a disruptive presence, but you want a roster of guys working together towards shared goals and a collective future. If your QB1 isn’t feeling like a fixture in that, it’s going to be problematic. That’s not a dig on Carr. He has his interests to look out for and he’s at an age where he knows his career is winding down.

Agree. Something doesn’t seem right here.

Carr comes off as pretty unreasonable if he wanted a trade AND refused to help the team facilitate it.

And the team equally looks unreasonably stubborn if they decided to restructure simply to force him to stay against his wishes.

Maybe the team felt (through conversations) they couldn’t get a decent return (or any return) unless they ate more $? But something isn’t adding up.

 

[DavidM]

Agree. Something doesn’t seem right here.

Carr comes off as pretty unreasonable if he wanted a trade AND refused to help the team facilitate it.

And the team equally looks unreasonably stubborn if they decided to restructure simply to force him to stay against his wishes.

Maybe the team felt (through conversations) they couldn’t get a decent return (or any return) unless they ate more $? But something isn’t adding up.

Yeah, this more than anything.