Carr wanted to be traded prior to restructure per NOF and CBSsports

[DerrickB]

He got you!

Exactly 2 months after today's date...

Oh well

 

[LetsGetWaffles]

Okay then what is your plan to get one?

To not intentionally lose in order to get the highest draft pick possible. Of the top 10 best QBs in the league from 2025, and I’m stretching it include these, 3 of them were #1 overall picks, Burrow, Baker, and Stafford. Most of the rest of the top 10 were picked later in the 1st or 2nd round. I’d advise fielding the best team possible and then focusing on scouting (which is what Moore and co seem to be doing) to find Carr’s successor.

For every Burrow, Baker, and Stafford, there’s Jameis, Young, Lawrence. The odds will look even worse if I were to include all QBs taken in the top 10 in the last 25 years. I’m not saying the odds are horrible at landing a franchise defining QB at the #1 pick. I’m simply saying that fielding a bad team in order to get that pick will cost people their jobs and likely has a worse overall effect on the team and the culture of the organization than just fielding the best team possible, playing out the season, and then focusing on scouting instead of getting the highest pick possible.

 

[WilliamBrees]

Hope this isn't the reason for reaching 3 - 4 rounds early on a guy like Dart.... this only makes it worse when Dart fails....

Dart will be a top 5 QB from this draft with Ward, Ewers, McCord, and Sanders.

 

[WilliamBrees]

This off-season has been like a bizarre contest on “How many different ways to report the same news in a more sensationalized way than the last, in the absence of actual news.”

Probably. I'm just waiting for Carr to start talking.

 

[WilliamBrees]

This means that those who wrote the article didn't bother themselves with talking directly to Underhill to get any insight he may have. They just quoting what he said to create a story they want to create to get attention and make money.

They are just repeating. They are not reporting.


Did they say they were told this by someone with the Saints or someone with Carr?


Let's get the sequence of events in proper chronological order. Carr's public comment about not taking a pay cut came right after the season ended which makes it highly likely that Carr made the comment before any contract discussions took place.

This is just a reshuffle and repeat of the same story that's over a month old now and it's still as unsubstantiated now as it was then. If this "smoke" had "fire" then someone would have found the "fire" by now. The fact that every story on this is just a rehashing of the same exact speculations makes it obvious to me that there is no actual "smoke" or "fire" to be found.

It's easier to tell people what they want to hear than it is to make the effort to try to get answers from the Saints and Carr.

Maybe they got their information from Ross Jackson or that other Saints podcaster.

 

[WilliamBrees]

Some may say it's not a real thing but I'm worried the O-line will not block as well for Carr and will play much better for someone else who is 100% in and actually wants to be here. Sorry but I'm for starting Rattler or drafting a QB and going with him!

Well they sure blocked better when Carr was out

There’s no way a team can be successful with a quarterback who doesn’t want to play for your team. But somehow I don’t think he won’t play as hard as he can anyway. If not, we’re screwed.

There's examples in the past of it actually working.

If he didn't want to be here then he should have accepted when the team asked him to take a pay cut. If he thought the team was going to embrace cap hell and not have a starting QB he was sadly mistaken and an idiot to boot.

If he didn't want to be in New Orleans, he needed to work with the team.. He said no and the Saints, rightfully, said enjoy your sack of money because you're a Saint for another year. As I understand it, he didnt like that the Saints restructured his contract. To damn bad. It was the right decision for the Saints.

That doesn't jive with the conversation going well with Carr and Moore.

Going 0-17 would guarantee us Arch or whoever the top QB prospect in the draft would be.

Carr isn’t half the QB Brees was. There was a clear and obvious reason we weren’t scouting QBs when Brees was 33 and are now with Carr.

Arch is not declaring until 27.

Derek Carr is the reason eyeliner prices have gone up in Nola and the surrounding areas.

Derek Carr eats soup with a fork.

Derek Carr invented the Death Star.

Derek Carr thinks size doesn't matter.

Derek Carr wears socks with sandals.

Derek Carr still uses Mapquest.

You forgot the most important one. Derek Carr eats Chipotle.

There’s been rumblings since the season ended. I believe his brother (David) had done an interview suggesting Derek wanted out. BUT if he really had wanted out so badly he could’ve easily restructured his contract, taken a pay cut, and started actively shopping himself. I think he overvalued himself believing a QB needy team would contact the Saints willing to trade for his current contract. Carr believes himself to be a top NFL QB even though every real world metric says he is very middle of the pack at his best…..

Carr is one of the top deep passing QBs in the league and was tied with Josh Allen for passes completed over 40 yards. If you can make MVS look like an all-pro, you're doing something.

 

[nakadish]

OMG! This thread will never die.

 

[BreesusSaves]

OMG! This thread will never die.

My popcorn purchases have never been higher.

 

[RaisingTheBar]

Arch is not declaring until 27.

People continue to stop reading once they see the name Arch….there was an or immediately after that where the point still remains.

 

[StudioSaint]

You’re making the false assumption that anybody would go on record with any of this.

I'm not making any false assumptions that anyone would go on the record. It would be helpful if you more carefully read everything I right before making false statements like this.

I very clearly said that one of the 3 possible responses could be "no comment," so no assumptions by me that anyone would go on the record.

Reporters can't control how people respond to their questioning, but they can control asking the question. Anyone that wanted to try to get to the truth of the matter would have reached out to both the Saints and Carr to get their comments, even knowing that the Saints and Carr might not even take their calls. That's my point, none of the people spreading this story have bothered to call the Saints or Carr. In my opinion, it's because they don't care about the truth. They only care about pushing a story that gets them attention and money. That's just my opinion.

If that is your standard, then pretty much all Saints stories outside of press releases and interviews are not good enough for you. Because that’s not how the NFL works.

And that's exactly why almost all "sports journalism" is nothing more than a fight to be the first to start the gossip. None of it is credible and I don't put much stock in any of it. Even when it's something I'd like to be true, I don't put much stock in it.

The McCoy and Carr argument is a good example. Some rumors were spread about what happened, mostly slanted against Carr. I didn't put any stock in the rumors pretending to be reports. When McCoy himself spoke up to explain it, it didn't jive with the rumors at all.

 

[BayouSAINTJoe]

I just ate Chipotle

 

[StudioSaint]

I'm not really sure what year that you're living in,...

2025 just like you.

...but I never hear that these days. I'd love to see a couple examples of what you're talking about.

NFL has no comment about Matt Weiss

When Matt Weiss allegedly embarked on his effort to secure "unauthorized access to student-athlete databases of more than 100 colleges and universities," he was working for the Baltimore Ravens.

www.nbcsports.com

"Taken out of context": Nikita Zadorov clarifies his viral 'no comment' statement about $66,000,000 Boston Bruins goalie's attempted fight

Defenseman Nikita Zadorov clarified his viral “no comment” statement regarding Boston Bruins goalie Jeremy Swayman’s attempted fight against Los Angeles Kings goalie Darcy Kuemper.

www.sportskeeda.com

https://athlonsports.com/nfl/kansas-city-chiefs/khalen-saunders-stephen-a-smith-shot-down-by-2-time-super-bowl-champion-in-lebron-beef-chiefs

James, taking the high road, had no comment on Smith's remark about taking a physical shot at The King,

Most reports these days (whether it's Schefter, Glazer, Rapaport, whoever) just give their report in a "sources are telling me" type of verbiage.

Those aren't actual reports. They are gossip and that is what "sports reporting" and too much other "reporting" has devolved to.

I never hear any of them say that they reached out to a team or a player/players agent for comment.

Right. And that's exactly what my point is. One doesn't have to jump off a cliff just because all the other "reporters" are.

 

[DerrickB]

DC4 can you please say something!!

 

[Merl]

2025 just like you.

NFL has no comment about Matt Weiss

When Matt Weiss allegedly embarked on his effort to secure "unauthorized access to student-athlete databases of more than 100 colleges and universities," he was working for the Baltimore Ravens.

www.nbcsports.com

"Taken out of context": Nikita Zadorov clarifies his viral 'no comment' statement about $66,000,000 Boston Bruins goalie's attempted fight

Defenseman Nikita Zadorov clarified his viral “no comment” statement regarding Boston Bruins goalie Jeremy Swayman’s attempted fight against Los Angeles Kings goalie Darcy Kuemper.

www.sportskeeda.com

https://athlonsports.com/nfl/kansas-city-chiefs/khalen-saunders-stephen-a-smith-shot-down-by-2-time-super-bowl-champion-in-lebron-beef-chiefs

Those aren't actual reports. They are gossip and that is what "sports reporting" and too much other "reporting" has devolved to.


Right. And that's exactly what my point is. One doesn't have to jump off a cliff just because all the other "reporters" are.

Absolutely. A lot of sports “reporting “ has gotten to the level of tabloids like the National Enquirer.