16-year old goes to pick up his siblings; ends up getting shot at the wrong address (4 Viewers)

[DaveXA]

I’d argue you’re using a status quo position- usury is fine when a bank does it and bad when a loan shark does it, even though the bank is legally allowed to do much more damage

That's simply not true. Loan sharks typically will charge the maximum rates, and even more in certain situations. Banks ordinarily will not even offer their services to the highest risk individuals.

Now depending on the bank, some have had discriminatory loan practices and such, but loan sharks are significantly worse in just about every metric.

And I don't even like banks.

 

[Semper]

https://amp.kansascity.com/news/local/article275825626.html

 

[Semper]

Ralph Yarl shooting: Judge seals evidence in criminal case of Andrew Lester | CNN

A Missouri judge granted a motion Thursday to seal evidence in the criminal case against Andrew Lester, who allegedly shot and wounded Ralph Yarl, a Black teen, after the 16-year-old went to the wrong home to pick up his siblings.

amp.cnn.com

 

[guidomerkinsrules]

@Semper -

What about Martin Shkreli?

The pharma bro who knowing raised the price of the life saving drugs from like $50 a pill to like $2500 after he acquires the company. Then got popped for securities fraud and spent 7 years in jail. Lots of people died who couldn’t afford his medicine. He knew it and acknowledged it.

Death sentence?

So many bullets

 

[guidomerkinsrules]

That's simply not true. Loan sharks typically will charge the maximum rates, and even more in certain situations. Banks ordinarily will not even offer their services to the highest risk individuals.

Now depending on the bank, some have had discriminatory loan practices and such, but loan sharks are significantly worse in just about every metric.

And I don't even like banks.

Payday lenders, better?

 

[guidomerkinsrules]

He pointed out what appears to be a blind spot for ya.

Tobacco, alcohol etc are all bad for ya and do damage as much as illicit drugs can. Users of both do it despite your own admission they know it's bad for them, so that doesn't really factor.

Causing a death over the course of years is still considered murder is it not? A wife slowing poisoning her husband is held accountable. So why not businesses and people who knowingly sell harmful products?

Do they get to stay because of a grandfather clause? If so, then why is marijuana now fighting to become legal?

The system is a lot more complex than you want to admit. It's easy to take a position when you simplify the choices to just what you want to address like you have, but it doesn't help others who are looking at the whole system and really want to fix it.

I should have just let you say it - much simpler than what I wrote

 

[DaveXA]

Payday lenders, better?

Same difference really.

 

[DaveXA]

@Semper -

What about Martin Shkreli?

The pharma bro who knowing raised the price of the life saving drugs from like $50 a pill to like $2500 after he acquires the company. Then got popped for securities fraud and spent 7 years in jail. Lots of people died who couldn’t afford his medicine. He knew it and acknowledged it.

Death sentence?

Yes please. Absolutely.

 

[Tapxe]

That's 55 years ago.

History of Tobacco in the World — Tobacco Timeline

Tobacco has a long history that stretches back to 6,000 BC, when Native Americans first discovered the tobacco plant.

tobaccofreelife.org

Tobacco and tobacco-related products have a long history that stretches back to 6,000 BC.

Relatively recent wouldn't you agree?

 

[DaveXA]

History of Tobacco in the World — Tobacco Timeline

Tobacco has a long history that stretches back to 6,000 BC, when Native Americans first discovered the tobacco plant.

tobaccofreelife.org

Relatively recent wouldn't you agree?

Well, relative to that, sure, but I don't think that's relevant to the discussion. We're talking about corporate liability, which is also relatively new if you want to use that metric.

 

[Semper]

 

[bigdaddysaints]

Same difference really.

who steals more money from people, payday loans/loan sharks or Mortgage companies?

 

[sfidc3]

Maybe to some degree. But not really.

You have to be joking, right?

 

[Big_L]

Who said they can’t?

Well considering black people can't even run away from racists, I'd say it's pretty known in black circles that you can't brandish anything. Ask Tamir Rice.

 

[Loco Hornet Fan]

Well considering black people can't even run away from racists, I'd say it's pretty known in black circles that you can't brandish anything. Ask Tamir Rice.

Tamir Rice is exactly who I thought of.