16-year old goes to pick up his siblings; ends up getting shot at the wrong address (6 Viewers)

[Semper]

why do you want them to die?

Simple they have proven they don’t care for the sanctity of another persons life, that persons family or that persons friends. They have taken everything from a mother, father, child, brother. Why do they get to live? To rethink their ways? I also hear about how much money it costs and that’s a bullshirt line. It’s expensive because we choose to make it expensive. We choose to house the separately on death row for 20+ years while they appeal etc. This racist piece of garbage took a woman’s life. In front of her children. They will never forget that or be the same again. We know she is guilty. Move her to the top of the ticket and put her on trial. She loses death penalty. She wants to appeal. Fine that’s next week. Guilty again you die tomorrow. Why are we over complicating things?

 

[DaveXA]

this last question indicates you don’t really have the perspective to make your initial claim - especially relative to other ‘betters’

It's a mixed bag at best. For all of the progress we've seen in some areas, in others, makes one wonder if we're really going backwards.

 

[guidomerkinsrules]

It's a mixed bag at best. For all of the progress we've seen in some areas, in others, makes one wonder if we're really going backwards.

We’re most certainly going backwards
We’ve lost ground on voting rights, women’s rights, lqbtg rights
police reform, gun control, govt malfeasance, wage growth, housing affordability, healthcare affordability

 

[guidomerkinsrules]

Simple they have proven they don’t care for the sanctity of another persons life, that persons family or that persons friends.

Lots of ways I’d like to take this
But let’s start with, would you support the death penalty for white collar crimes that show complete disdain for other humans lives?

 

[DaveXA]

We’re most certainly going backwards
We’ve lost ground on voting rights, women’s rights, lqbtg rights
police reform, gun control, govt malfeasance, wage growth, housing affordability, healthcare affordability

Indeed.

 

[sfidc3]

Lots of ways I’d like to take this
But let’s start with, would you support the death penalty for white collar crimes that show complete disdain for other humans lives?

Yup, that type of mindset would put the Sackler family all on death row.....not that they don't deserve it.....

 

[guidomerkinsrules]

Yup, that type of mindset would put the Sackler family all on death row.....not that they don't deserve it.....

If disregard for human life and subsequent deaths were able to be tried as capital cases, we’d have huge help wanted signs over most c suite offices
O&G, drug companies, mining companies…
I’m actually starting to like this idea

 

[Sailorsaint]

Black woman in Florida shot dead through front door by white neighbor

Ajike ‘AJ’ Owens killed after allegedly trying to retrieve iPad taken from her child, while shooter has not been arrested or charged

www.theguardian.com

She has now been arrested.

 

[Semper]

Lots of ways I’d like to take this
But let’s start with, would you support the death penalty for white collar crimes that show complete disdain for other humans lives?

If there was intentional harm done, absolutely.

 

[Tapxe]

If there was intentional harm done, absolutely.

One could make the argument to execute Brett Farve on that basis.

 

[guidomerkinsrules]

If there was intentional harm done, absolutely.

But why intentionality?
If it’s disregard for the sanctity of life, one dude intentionally pulling a trigger would be ‘worse’ than a boardroom nonchalantly choosing bottom line over 10k cancer deaths or industrial disasters or heart disease or whatever
If sanctity of human life is the metric, punish the people who cause the most harm, yeah?

 

[Semper]

But why intentionality?
If it’s disregard for the sanctity of life, one dude intentionally pulling a trigger would be ‘worse’ than a boardroom nonchalantly choosing bottom line over 10k cancer deaths or industrial disasters or heart disease or whatever
If sanctity of human life is the metric, punish the people who cause the most harm, yeah?

Dude you’re just doing Guidospeak here. Murder would be the defining definition for me. If a person intentionally kills one person or a 1000 they deserve the death penalty. If the CEO of a company knows his product is going to kill people then yes she deserves the same treatment. An eye for an and a tooth for a tooth.

 

[guidomerkinsrules]

Dude you’re just doing Guidospeak here. Murder would be the defining definition for me. If a person intentionally kills one person or a 1000 they deserve the death penalty. If the CEO of a company knows his product is going to kill people then yes she deserves the same treatment. An eye for an and a tooth for a tooth.

It’s not guidospeak, it’s asking if there is an underpinning philosophy or just OT punishment
If sanctity of human life were the real foundation, the consequences of actions would be the metric not intentionality
McDonalds or tobacco companies or NEA or BP are far more ‘responsible’ for loss of human life than one idiot with a gun

 

[Semper]

It’s not guidospeak, it’s asking if there is an underpinning philosophy or just OT punishment
If sanctity of human life were the real foundation, the consequences of actions would be the metric not intentionality
McDonalds or tobacco companies or NEA or BP are far more ‘responsible’ for loss of human life than one idiot with a gun

Well people choose to eat at McDonald’s. People choose to smoke that cigarette. When I was 16 and put that first Marlboro Red to my lips I knew before I lit it that it was bad for me. I did it anyway. I smoked until I was 36 and I knew it was bad for me. I quit on my on because I knew it was going to kill me.

 

[DaveXA]

It’s not guidospeak, it’s asking if there is an underpinning philosophy or just OT punishment
If sanctity of human life were the real foundation, the consequences of actions would be the metric not intentionality
McDonalds or tobacco companies or NEA or BP are far more ‘responsible’ for loss of human life than one idiot with a gun

Sure, but it's a lot harder to directly connect the dots between the person most responsible for deaths caused by the reckless actions of a corporation. If it could be done, I think it would be more often. But more often than not, it's very difficult to prove intentional harm due to corporate actions. Most often there is some sort of negligence rather than premeditated intent.