A major roadblock to the Saints coaching search could be Derek Carr (1 Viewer)

[SuperSaint]

You weren’t completely wrong and not completely right just somewhere in the middle.

Yeah, I'm not that smart. Got Brady and Glenn though, I'll take it...

 

[WilliamBrees]

Carr lost more games in 10 yrs than Brady in 23 yrs. That's his tape, final score is loss. I'll say it again we had a light schedule strength wise even with injuries we should of gotten above 500 but DA AndDC comics are the Bloose brothers. He saying no pay cut we didn't bring him here to make money they brought him here to win but he know he's not a winner that's why he talking stats.

He also played for the Raiders. How have the Raiders done since Carr left?

 

[WilliamBrees]

Carr lost more games in 10 yrs than Brady in 23 yrs. That's his tape, final score is loss. I'll say it again we had a light schedule strength wise even with injuries we should of gotten above 500 but DA AndDC comics are the Bloose brothers. He saying no pay cut we didn't bring him here to make money they brought him here to win but he know he's not a winner that's why he talking stats.

Where to begin with this post...

McDaniels didn't want him from the start, he benched and released Carr with the hopes that his former QB Brady (who was the only reason for his success in NE) would change his mind on retirement and go with the Raiders. He didn't, so McDouche signed Jimmy Garopollo who was Brady's backup and "knew the system". Jimmy G turned out to be absolute garbage so he lost a ton of games, got fired, and the Raiders immediately corrected the mistake and cut Jimmy G.

Carr had a no-trade clause so he held all the cards. He also had an injury clause on his contract where his 2023 contract was 100% guaranteed if he got injured in the 2022 season. So they benched him to prevent that from kicking in. Then released him after he refused to waive the no-trade. (I mean, F the Raiders for backstabbing him, he wasn't going to help them). Upon being released, he could have signed with about 9-10 teams around the NFL who needed a QB but narrowed it down to the 2 teams that: 1) Needed a QB and 2) Had a solid team and DEFENSE that could actually help him win, after being with the 20th-32nd ranked defense his ENTIRE career. (Go look it up, he had one of the worst D's in NFL history for one season). At least a few other teams reached out to L.V. with trade requests but he wouldn't waive it.

He thought the Saints would have a defense solid enough to win more, but that turned out to be a bust. How many times did the offense get a lead, only for them to leave guys wide open or commit an idiotic PI penalty to set up the opponent to win it?

I don't recall us choking a game in 23? GB we choked against because he got hurt.

 

[WilliamBrees]

Carr never had a number one weapon to throw to here. No big X or a TE like he had in Waller.

If you want the next QB on this team to be successful, there needs to weapons. No QB can win without them. Josh Allen is learning that lesson.

 

[DSnfla]

Agreed. I'd be really concerned about Moore is he didn't realize that we have a major issue at QB.

So, it's not surprising that Moore would have concerns about our QB situation. Although the interpretation of this I saw was it was "scuttlebutt" that Moore wasn't sure about the job because of the QB situation.

Anyway, I think we have all shared the same concern since Brees retired. Although I guess there are a few people who think Carr can be the solution, but to me he always felt like a bridge QB that you get until you can find a young QB. And even Carr's biggest supporters have to realize that he's going to be 34 when the season starts and only has 2 more years on this contract so he isn't a long term solution.

I do find this entire coaching cycle strange. With rare exception, Chicago and New England but only because they inexplicably didn't fire Eberflus last year and N.E. inexplicably hired Mayo, teams that have jobs open don't have good young QBs on the roster when they are looking for a new HC. Every other job either has an aging QB about to retire (Jets), a young but expensive and mediocre QB (Jax), or no real QB options (Saints and Raiders). But this year was strange because they were two jobs with potentially good young QBs which made it harder for teams like the Saints that don't have the QB position figured out.

So it's strange and a bit unlucky that our QB situation would be such an issue when most of the time that is what you get when a job comes open. If a team had a great QB situation, they probably wouldn't be looking for a new HC in the first place.

Hopefully Moore continues to see options to succeed and takes the job. And I do agree that it's a good sign that Moore isn't satisfied with Carr and presumably will be looking hard to fix the position.

I'm not as down on Carr as you and some people. And that article is very speculative and she hedges her bets at the end. While DC may not be the long term answer he's certainly good enough to get us to the playoffs and maybe to the NFCCG, especially with the right weapons. If you swap DC with Goff I think you get very close to the same results and I can almost guarantee he'd have done better in the NFCCG this yr

I think that DC give us time to find THE franchise QB and not make a desperate reach for one. And in the meantime we build a strong team to make the new QB a success