Alvin Kamara pleads no contest to lesser misdemeanor charge, jury trial is cancelled; civil suit also settled on confidential terms (3 Viewers)

[Madmarsha]

...... which sounds a lot like he agreed to keep his mouth shut about how much he got.

And just what HE was up to and doing or saying that maybe he doesn't want to testify to in court UNDER OATH.

 

[Doug B]

The NFL has been swayed in the past by PR considerations. I don't know how much PR will be considered regarding the length of the league's ultimate suspension of Kamara.

I'm interested in whether or not the house back up my supposition here:

The Kamara case has indeed NOT gotten the media run that the Ray Rice, Adrian Peterson, and Kareem Hunt cases got. ISTM that those other cases transcended sports media (maybe less so with Hunt) and got 24/7 media coverage while Kamara's case only popped up now and then on ESPN or Fox Sports. Accordingly, the league -- if they so choose -- can "get away with" a lighter-than-you'd-think suspension for Kamara without risking much of a PR/media backlash.

Does that sound about right to others here?

 

[Judge_Smails]

I bet 0 games suspended

Been telling them since day 1

I also said no felony conviction, no jail time, and no games suspended since this first broke.

It’s funny seeing all the hard justice experts have their house of cow chips collapse on top of them.

They still got Jameis and MT to hate on, though. Lol. It will make this easier for them to handle their disappointment that AK isn’t going to super-max prison.

 

[OutlawSaint]

I could still see this being less than 6 games for his suspension, maybe 3-4 games. Not much PR control is needed when the media has pretty much forgotten about Kamara.

 

[Madmarsha]

I could still see this being less than 6 games for his suspension, maybe 3-4 games. Not much PR control is needed when the media has pretty much forgotten about Kamara.

I'm bracing for 6 with an appeal landing it at 4.

 

[Saint Droopy]

 

[ndcc]

All who are glad that this (including the confidential settlement) are now in the rear view mirror, say: AYE.

One AYE here.

 

[MJ in Calif]

$100k to victim? Settled cheap, must have extenuating issues for the "victim" not to cash in large.

There was also a settlement on a civil suit with terms remaining confidential. My guess is that the victim got more $ than that.

 

[bigdaddysaints]

There was also a settlement on a civil suit with terms remaining confidential. My guess is that the victim got more $ than that.

yea, that 100k just stuff like medical bills. In a criminal case, you don't get pain and suffering and that kind of stuff

 

[superchuck500]

The NFL has been swayed in the past by PR considerations. I don't know how much PR will be considered regarding the length of the league's ultimate suspension of Kamara.

I'm interested in whether or not the house back up my supposition here:

The Kamara case has indeed NOT gotten the media run that the Ray Rice, Adrian Peterson, and Kareem Hunt cases got. ISTM that those other cases transcended sports media (maybe less so with Hunt) and got 24/7 media coverage while Kamara's case only popped up now and then on ESPN or Fox Sports. Accordingly, the league -- if they so choose -- can "get away with" a lighter-than-you'd-think suspension for Kamara without risking much of a PR/media backlash.

Does that sound about right to others here?

Didn’t those guys batter women and children?

 

[Merl]

If we are making predictions here then I am going to say that the NFL will try to negotiate an agreement for 5 games but it falls through. Disciplinary Officer will then award a 4 game suspension that will be appealed to the Commissioner and he increases it to 5 games.

 

[liveoakh]

More than 9 out of 10 criminal cases settle with a plea. The odds against a trial were heavy, massive from day one - but here we don't know what the DA's posture was. You certainly seem to think that the DA was ready to put Kamara on trial and behind bars but then the victim took a settlement and refused to help the DA any further, so the DA was stuck and had to take a plea. I know that fact pattern happens a lot on crime shows on TV but I don't think the timeline here suggests that's what happened.

The prosecutor Offered the deal, the day after Greene settled w/ Kamara for an undisclosed amount of money. The timing would suggest his case was was weakened by that development. Would you not agree?

What is far more reasonable and likely, is that the DA was willing to let the parties try to work it out and if they did, was willing to be flexible on the charges - so that everyone can put this matter to rest and move on. And that was part of the whole thing that made it

Really? Why would the DA care about them working it out. This is pure fantasy. Kamara kept pushing this along, not the DA. It's 10 days from the trial, of course the DA was ready to go to trial. What DA wouldn't be?

I just don't see any evidence that the DA wanted to try this case and then had to pivot because the victim was no longer going to assist. The DA didn't even need the victim to try this case other than to appear and testify as to the facts - which are on the video and he would have to do if he was subpoenaed. But there was really never any appearance that the DA was preparing for trial on this case.

If the DA was looking to make a deal, then why wait to the twilight hour to offer a plea? The DA literally offered the plea, the day after Greane was bought off.

 

[Doug B]

Didn’t those guys batter women and children?

Yes. Ezekiel Elliot was accused of multiple domestic violence incidents against his girlfriend, for another one.

 

[DaveXA]

The prosecutor Offered the deal, the day after Greene settled w/ Kamara for an undisclosed amount of money. The timing would suggest his case was was weakened by that development. Would you not agree?

You do realize that Greene and the DA have likely been in discussions well before these things were resolved? The case wasn't weakened by it. They probably knew that Greene was attempting to settle and waited til that was resolved before doing the plea deal. I imagine one wasn't going to happen without the other. Settling the civil side didn't necessarily preclude settling the criminal case though.

Really? Why would the DA care about them working it out. This is pure fantasy. Kamara kept pushing this along, not the DA. It's 10 days from the trial, of course the DA was ready to go to trial. What DA wouldn't be?

How do you know this? A DA has a large number of cases they deal with at any given time. Of course Kamara's team did what they could to get the best outcome possible, and it worked out that they got a plea they could live with.

If the DA was looking to make a deal, then why wait to the twilight hour to offer a plea? The DA literally offered the plea, the day after Greane was bought off.

DAs are always looking to offer plea deals. I have no doubt they traded offers well before they finally came to an agreement. That's really not surprising. Neither side wanted to go to court because of the risks involved, so they're going to try and settle as over 90% of all cases do.

 

[kcirdor]

The prosecutor Offered the deal, the day after Greene settled w/ Kamara for an undisclosed amount of money. The timing would suggest his case was was weakened by that development. Would you not agree?

Really? Why would the DA care about them working it out. This is pure fantasy. Kamara kept pushing this along, not the DA. It's 10 days from the trial, of course the DA was ready to go to trial. What DA wouldn't be?


If the DA was looking to make a deal, then why wait to the twilight hour to offer a plea? The DA literally offered the plea, the day after Greane was bought off.

seems like SOP to me...