Are we going to talk about that thing that no one's talking about (2 Viewers)

[Madmarsha]

I don't call people bad words. Never have. I was raised by a woman who didn't like me to say the phrase "shut up" let alone swear because she was a lady. Now, I ain't no lady and, God knows, I can swear but I learned to not call people names. Both my parents were Republicans but I didn't learn ugly things from them. Didn't hear the "N" word at home or any other derogatory slang or hate-filled ideology against races or genders or sexual preferences or nationalites that I had to unlearn as an adult. I was taught, mostly tacitly, how to treat and regard other human beings so I just don't understand calling people names.

 

[guidomerkinsrules]

I don't call people bad words.

you might not say them, but I can certainly hear you thinking them when you type at me sometimes

 

[HoustonSaint68]

Not really sure how to take this.

All I meant is that it’s a useful exercise to really try to look inward in those situations, and try to identify the base emotion behind my reaction.

I have no idea what you personally were feeling when you heard that comment, so I’m not implying that you felt the same thing that I did. I do clearly remember what my immediate reaction was: “You elitist, out-of-touch *****!” Then, as a boy from Da Parish, I took a few beats to explore where that emotional reaction was coming from: childhood feelings of inadequacy; young adult doubts of my own worth and value; and early career imposter syndrome born in an environment amongst London and New York “elites”.

Once I identified that, the power of her idiotic statement over me was gone, and it was clear to me that the statement was solely a reflection of her, not me or the people and home that I love and care for. And THEN I reacted to it accordingly.

 

[Madmarsha]

you might not say them, but I can certainly hear you thinking them when you type at me sometimes

Oh, not the REALLY bad ones, doody head.

 

[HoustonSaint68]

Also, this is ridiculous.

This thread should be closed.

On occasion, depending on the event, a little room is allowed on the main board for folks to process sheet.

 

[St. Widge]

But no one’s talking about it
It’s implied in the thread title

People are doing the partisan dance and they don't even realize it.

Personally, I'm all for all political discussions being on this forum and just banning/suspending the bad actors. I enjoy good level headed logical discussions about world events that sometimes cross the line into politics.

But, that's not my decision, it's not my site, and I understand and respect why the decision was made. Having to babysit a bunch of people who can't control themselves is not something anyone should have to do on a site that was started to have fun and talk about football.

So, given that I think this attempt to have a veiled discussion is failing and is turning into exactly the partisan discussion it will inevitably become, I don't see this thread going anywhere but getting shut down. Because sooner or later someone is going to read all these veiled partisan positions and respond in kind but not so veiled.

 

[HoustonSaint68]

You saying that because I'm Mexican?

Seriously, things have been a bit touch-and-go so far, but folks are trying. You are bringing a different vibe to the thread so perhaps you could back away at this point given your stated ambivalence toward it.

 

[HoustonSaint68]

People are doing the partisan dance and they don't even realize it.

Personally, I'm all for all political discussions being on this forum and just banning/suspending the bad actors. I enjoy good level headed logical discussions about world events that sometimes cross the line into politics.

But, that's not my decision, it's not my site, and I understand and respect why the decision was made. Having to babysit a bunch of people who can't control themselves is not something anyone should have to do on a site that was started to have fun and talk about football.

So, given that I think this attempt to have a veiled discussion is failing and is turning into exactly the partisan discussion it will inevitably become, I don't see this thread going anywhere but getting shut down. Because sooner or later someone is going to read all these veiled partisan positions and respond in kind but not so veiled.

Yes, I fully expect it will get shut down, and likely soon. But let’s let the folks who wish to make the attempt to be civil do so, and others can just stay away.

 

[tenordas]

First rule of not talking about it is that no one talks about it. I've said too much already, they might be after me...

"There is only one thing worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about."

 

[guidomerkinsrules]

"There is only one thing worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about."

Imagine what Oscar Wilde would do commenting on our current state of affairs

 

[Madmarsha]

All I meant is that it’s a useful exercise to really try to look inward in those situations, and try to identify the base emotion behind my reaction.

I have no idea what you personally were feeling when you heard that comment, so I’m not implying that you felt the same thing that I did. I do clearly remember what my immediate reaction was: “You elitist, out-of-touch *****!” Then, as a boy from Da Parish, I took a few beats to explore where that emotional reaction was coming from: childhood feelings of inadequacy; young adult doubts of my own worth and value; and early career imposter syndrome born in an environment amongst London and New York “elites”.

Once I identified that, the power of her idiotic statement over me was gone, and it was clear to me that the statement was solely a reflection of her, not me or the people and home that I love and care for. And THEN I reacted to it accordingly.

Ah, okay, I get your angle now. I very much reacted to the word from the personal perspective that it was insulting the people I am related to, grew up with, am friends with, went to school with. And other than that, it was, as you said, reflective of it being elitist and myopically dismissive of the Americans in "flyover country". In other words, it was like a politician saying, Don't vote for me, I don't need your votes, when, clearly, you do.

 

[Madmarsha]

"There is only one thing worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about."

"Who said that? Freud?"

 

[sammymvpknight]

That’s what I’m saying- we’ve been there for a hot minute - it’s time for the next natural phase

I hope so. We’re already starting to hear “Trump’s assassination attempt: winners and losers.” Spoiler alert: we all lose. Republicans/Democrats…everyone.

 

[guidomerkinsrules]

"Who said that? Freud?"

Kim Kardashian

 

[Zardnok]

"Who said that? Freud?"

Donald Trump...