Bears hire Ben Johnson as HC to 13M/yr ; former/Saints HC Dennis Allen is Bears DC, former/Saints asst Declan Doyle is Bears OC (1 Viewer)

[DeuceMcAllisterFan]

He played this hiring process so well. He's already a top 8 highest paid coach before coaching a single game as a head coach in the NFL.

 

[SystemShock]

I’m sure that this is a contrarian view, but I don’t think Ben Johnson will be a good head coach. The Lions have always been my second team, and I’ve watched all their games over the last few years. They live and die with Dan Campbell…he’s the main driver and motivator in that organization. Ben Johnson reminds me a lot of DA…you don’t see him leading and motivating on the sidelines. He seems quite detached from the players. He may be a great offensive innovator, but without a Dan Campbell around, I’m doubting his abilities to lead a team. Pair him with DA and it seems like you’ve got two betas at the top of the organization.

 

[St. Widge]

Not really, it’s $5 million more per year than average. That’s absolutely nothing to the owners of an NFL franchise. If it goes wrong then it wouldn’t be any different to any other first time HC not working out.

Oh come on. If an owner pays a HC $5 million per year more than other HCs because he thinks he's worth it and it doesn't work out then it is a big blunder no matter how much the owner has. These people didn't become billionaires by paying $5 million per year over the going rate for someone that fails. That's especially true for the Bears owners who are traditionally cheap.

 

[St. Geezy]

I’m sure that this is a contrarian view, but I don’t think Ben Johnson will be a good head coach. The Lions have always been my second team, and I’ve watched all their games over the last few years. They live and die with Dan Campbell…he’s the main driver and motivator in that organization. Ben Johnson reminds me a lot of DA…you don’t see him leading and motivating on the sidelines. He seems quite detached from the players. He may be a great offensive innovator, but without a Dan Campbell around, I’m doubting his abilities to lead a team. Pair him with DA and it seems like you’ve got two betas at the top of the organization.

Saw similar things but didn’t want to assume since I haven’t watched a ton of their games, but yeah, seems more like a Carmichael type only with a more fun playbook and more competent coordinating skills.

We’ll see though.

 

[WhoDat6278]

Oh come on. If an owner pays a HC $5 million per year more than other HCs because he thinks he's worth it and it doesn't work out then it is a big blunder no matter how much the owner has. These people didn't become billionaires by paying $5 million per year over the going rate for someone that fails. That's especially true for the Bears owners who are traditionally cheap.

It would be no more a blunder than say Aaron Glenn going to the Jets and not working out.

The extra money has no bearing on how much of a blunder it would be. The Bears are valued at over $6 billion and are one of the most profitable franchises in the league, it’s pocket money. The outcome from paying Ben Johnson $8m vs $13m is ultimately going to be the same.

 

[Darth Deuce]

Well, we play at Chicago next season, so DA gets a "revenge" shot at his previous team.

 

[SigFreudianSlip]

Payton is better on TV, though.

Oh I’d much rather have Payton lol. Still sad he’s gone.

Just funny to me anyone would say “settle” when talking about Mike.

 

[Mr. Coach Klein]

This will be a disaster.

I can't possibly imagine a better staff of what's available. DA is a top 5 DC, Rizzi one of the best ST coaches, Ben Johnson a top 5 oc/play caller

 

[St. Widge]

It would be no more a blunder than say Aaron Glenn going to the Jets and not working out.

The extra money has no bearing on how much of a blunder it would be. The Bears are valued at over $6 billion and are one of the most profitable franchises in the league, it’s pocket money. The outcome from paying Ben Johnson $8m vs $13m is ultimately going to be the same.

A $13 million mistake is worse than an $8 million mistake no matter how much money you have.

 

[DSnfla]

Until I see DA do anything without the foundation of the very detail-oriented SP regime’s backdrop, I’m calling him a fraud.

I don’t view him as some revered DC. He got to us at the exact right time, with our star studded defense and brand new shutdown corner, and reaped the benefits.

I’m just not buying that he’s some defensive savant based on his “maybe slightly above average at times” level of success under Sean.

Yeah like that foundational piece that SP insisted on Marcus Davenport. And what about those cornerstones of D Stephone Anthony and Hau'oli Kakaha
Gotta disagree with you on this one

 

[JackDiesel]

Even if we take it at face value that DA’s defense can’t stop mobile QB’s with the right players, winning the NFC North is what comes first. The Lions, Vikings, and Packers all have pocket passers, so a DC that excels at shutting them down would be the right choice.

Hence the second paragraph in my post...

 

[DSnfla]

He’ll bring stability to the organization. He’s not an inspiring hire as we know his ceiling. He’s no Sean Payton or Andy Reid when it comes to offensive creativity, so I can’t see him winning a playoff game with Carr. But the Saints will be back to possibly being an 8 to 10 win team.

This absurd notion that anyone can know the ceiling of a HC that has already won a SB and has been under the thumb of the most meddling owner in the league is mindboggling. SMH

 

[Mr. Coach Klein]

Just realized 2/3 of MMs playoff losses were to SF. Starting to warm up to him. Always thought he wasn't good BC GB. But maybe I judged too harshly. Similar to slightly better than SP in record and playoffs. I do think he should've won more in GB (SP here too).

 

[DSnfla]

The Bears get their guy a year later than they should have and DA walks into a pre-made stacked defense.

How is the 27th ranked defense stacked??