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[St. Widge]

I played the Battlefield BC2 demo, and that was enough for me to know that I hated the way the game feels. No offense to anyone, but it seems that the guys that aren't as good at MW2 are loving BC2.

I'd say Zeetes is pretty good at MW2 and he likes BC2 also. And, he certainly has given AgentZero a hard time in the times that he was on the opposite team.

And I guess it all depends on how you define "good". If by good you are talking K/D ratio you're mostly right. But, there is more to a multiplayer FPS than K/D ratio. I know that's all that really matters in MW2 and Halo is K/D ratio, but that's not so much the case in BC2 and some people, while they aren't very good at K/D ratio, are good at helping out a team in an objective based game by being the one that rushes a flag to expose the other team for the slayers, being the one that holds off a guy trying to defuse explosives until the slayers can get there even if he dies in the process, being the guy that gets killed running across the map to bring the slayers ammo, or the guy that heals the slayers to keep them slaying, but gets killed in the process. It's a different set of skills and a different style of play. There are also those that are good a driving tanks, Hummers, helicopters, Etc., but might not we as good as a lone sniper trying to pick off defenders. And different games reward those things differently. BC2 tends to reward the team aspects of play more than the individual slayer aspects. Although that is rewarded too.

What I think is that the guys who like to be slayers and like to snipe are less likely to like BC2 because it does not only reward those skills above all other skills.

Edit: And while I'm not very good at MW2, I happen to like the game a lot. I just find BC2 a nice change of pace. And, I'll probably feel that Reach is a nice change of pace from BC2 and MW2 when it comes out later this year. After playing the same game nearly every night since sometime in November, I think a lot of people just want to try something new. And, I think BC2 is not only new, but just as good of a game as MW2.

Edit 2: And, I just noticed that Authentic and SaintJustino also like BC2 also. I don't recall how good Authentic was at MW2, but I know he's pretty good at Halo and I know that Justino was good at MW2. As far as I can tell, the only people who were good at MW2 that don't like BC2 are you and Twenty.

 

[St. Widge]

Oh, they'll take offense. And then they'll tell you that your OPINION is wrong.

Are you one of those people that thinks opinions can't be wrong?

 

[Twenty]

The gap is closing in the pole. The Halo sisters are on the move.

And I haven't voted yet. I'm hoping it's tied for like 2 weeks, then I finally break it with my vote.

 

[bigdog]

mongeese...lol

 

[Twenty]

I'd say Zeetes is pretty good at MW2 and he likes BC2 also. And, he certainly has given AgentZero a hard time in the times that he was on the opposite team.

And I guess it all depends on how you define "good". If by good you are talking K/D ratio you're mostly right. But, there is more to a multiplayer FPS than K/D ratio. I know that's all that really matters in MW2 and Halo is K/D ratio, but that's not so much the case in BC2 and some people, while they aren't very good at K/D ratio, are good at helping out a team in an objective based game by being the one that rushes a flag to expose the other team for the slayers, being the one that holds off a guy trying to defuse explosives until the slayers can get there even if he dies in the process, being the guy that gets killed running across the map to bring the slayers ammo, or the guy that heals the slayers to keep them slaying, but gets killed in the process. It's a different set of skills and a different style of play. There are also those that are good a driving tanks, Hummers, helicopters, Etc., but might not we as good as a lone sniper trying to pick off defenders. And different games reward those things differently. BC2 tends to reward the team aspects of play more than the individual slayer aspects. Although that is rewarded too.

What I think is that the guys who like to be slayers and like to snipe are less likely to like BC2 because it does not only reward those skills above all other skills.

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Are you one of those people that thinks opinions can't be wrong?

True opinions have nothing to do with fact. Therefore they cannot be wrong.

Now, if I say: "my opinion is that it's 200 degrees outside today." It's not the opinion thats wrong, it's that it was never an opinion to start with.

I think people who say opinions can be wrong are losing sight of what an opinion is.

 

[St. Widge]

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True opinions have nothing to do with fact. Therefore they cannot be wrong.

Now, if I say: "my opinion is that it's 200 degrees outside today." It's not the opinion thats wrong, it's that it was never an opinion to start with.

I think people who say opinions can be wrong are losing sight of what an opinion is.

Orly? It's my opinion that 2 + 2 = Mongeese.

Is that opinion wrong?

It's my opinion that the world is flat.

It's my opinion that gravity does not exist.

It's my opinion that jumping is not allowed in Halo.

Opinions that deal with or are based on fact can be wrong.

 

[zeetes]

I'd say Zeetes is pretty good at MW2 and he likes BC2 also. And, he certainly has given AgentZero a hard time in the times that he was on the opposite team.

haha thanks widge! though i have to disagree with you since that is like comparing me to chuck norris. he is just that good (though i did nuke him and that made me smile!).

honestly though i still prefer mw2. if for anything just because it's a lot faster paced. bc2 is better for the team aspect.

 

[buzd]

If the grass is greener.....why come back? Esp for a guy who has spewed his dislike for the game on almost every thread.

Terrible. I will play MW2 again, too. It's a good game, and I would like to play some new maps.

But... I've been trying to figure out why I find this game to be so much better. And frankly, MW2 just seems like a small scale training game for the epic battles of BC2. There are very few things in MW2 that don't appear in BC2, in way way or the other (except glitches, heh) and BC2 is just grander in objectives, scale, etc. BC2 is closer to the epic war that I pictured MAG could be (although I haven't played that one).

I understand 24's gripe with vehicle combat, but it's also not that much different than killstreak rewards in MW2. Except now you get to FLY THE CHOPPER (or the UAV, which is like a predator missle). It takes skillz. I remember pre-MW2 that there was some ambivalence about mid-game awards that could affect the battle (matyrdom, etc). That's not here in BC2 - in fact, vehicles' availability is predetermined on the map, ensuring balance.

Other analogous "perks" - MW2 has ninja/cold blooded, BC2 has spotting. MW2 has 5 loadout slots, BC2 has 4 classes (whose loadouts are limited, but you can adjust them in game). MW2 has FMJ, Stopping Power, Danger Close - BC2 has extra ammo, explosive loadouts. I've thought about 24's sniping complaints, and there could be several other factors besides gravity affecting the consistency - his targets could have armor boosts (body armor load out), or they could be near a health pack. I also think the Damage/Rate of Fire/Accuracy ratings of weapons in BC2 are more distinct.

Y'all know my disdain for deathmatch, which is my main problem with Ground War being the only mode available to party chat in MW2. BC2 objective based game modes and map scale are really what makes the game great to me. Other than the difficulty of getting more than 4 people to a game easily, that's the winner right there. And I even have to laugh when we have a few people on the other team in our party. Right there, I think we proved that MW2 made a mistake by limiting party chat to just Ground War (listen to me talking about party chat... sigh.. times do change).

(and of course, I have old-man reflexes, which makes me a terrible slayer, but I am better at strategery).


Now, don't take this as crapping on MW2, because I like the game and have had a lot of fun with it. I will get the map packs for it and play through them. But really, it was just good training for this game. This game is just more fun.

 

[St. Widge]

haha thanks widge! though i have to disagree with you since that is like comparing me to chuck norris. he is just that good (though i did nuke him and that made me smile!).

honestly though i still prefer mw2. if for anything just because it's a lot faster paced. bc2 is better for the team aspect.

Yeah, I figured you liked it better, but you do like BC2 as well. And, I personally liked MW2 when it came out more than I like BC2 now, but MW2 has just gotten old for me.

As for AgentZero, yeah, he is better than you and everyone else I've played with, but not being as good as him does not mean that you still aren't very good. And, you never got to hear how ****** off he was when you were on the other team.

 

[authentic]

If its not for you its not for you. I'm not here to say you're wrong, I just think if you played it with SRvg you would like it a hell of a lot more. I'm playing with just pubbies with no voice chat and still having a ton of fun.

 

[Twenty]

Orly? It's my opinion that 2 + 2 = Mongeese.

Is that opinion wrong?

It's my opinion that the world is flat.

It's my opinion that gravity does not exist.

It's my opinion that jumping is not allowed in Halo.

Opinions that deal with or are based on fact can be wrong.

Like I said, those aren't opinions. The opposite has already been established as fact. Just cuz you throw the word "opinion" in front of a false statement, doesn't mean it's actually an opinion. A true opinion cannot be proven or disproven.

 

[antipop]

it is my opinion that this thread is going exactly how i planned

 

[St. Widge]

Like I said, those aren't opinions. The opposite has already been established as fact. Just cuz you throw the word "opinion" in front of a false statement, doesn't mean it's actually an opinion. A true opinion cannot be proven or disproven.

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Nothing in the definition of an opinion says that it is something that can not be proven or disproven. Anyway, I was just messing with you. I didn't want to get into a serious discussion of language analysis.

 

[St. Widge]

it is my opinion that this thread is going exactly how i planned

Can you prove that?

 

[authentic]

Can you prove that?

but its an opinion