Body Cleanse.... do you believe in it? (1 Viewer)

[ok awesome]

but mojoman has science on his side. what do doctors know about science. they don't even take science in college. theres no time between Pfizer 4010 and GlaxoSmithKline 3061.

 

[Saint James]

but mojoman has science on his side. what do doctors know about science. they don't even take science in college. theres no time between Pfizer 4010 and GlaxoSmithKline 3061.

Hard to argue with that. I never once took a science course to get into medical school.

Then when I got here, I found out all we ever did was sit in lecture hall and listen to guys from pfizer. I was so upset.

 

[RebSaint]

I'm no scientist, and I'm not a medical expert regarding these matters, but isn't it good to have some toxins in our body? Meaning, vitamins have iron, zinc, copper, tin, etc. Lots of these "toxins" you refer to occur naturally in even organic foods that we consume.

I know this much: so many people are hung up on keeping "germ free," when actually a little germs/bacteria in one's system is healthy because it builds up natural immunities. I'm not advocating wallowing in mud or not washing hands before or after one eats and uses the bathroom, but I've seen people take fear of germs to the extreme.

My sense is that this product is a racket, and there's a cottage industry convincing people that they have "toxins" in their body just to buy their product to "clean" the body out.

Further, this thread reminds me of this charlatan.

 

[Saint James]

I'm no scientist, and I'm not a medical expert regarding these matters, but isn't it good to have some toxins in our body? Meaning, vitamins have iron, zinc, copper, tin, etc. Lots of these "toxins" you refer to occur naturally in even organic foods that we consume.

I know this much: so many people are hung up on keeping "germ free," when actually a little germs/bacteria in one's system is healthy because it builds up natural immunities. I'm not advocating wallowing in mud or not washing hands before or after one eats and uses the bathroom, but I've seen people take fear of germs to the extreme.

My sense is that this product is a racket, and there's a cottage industry convincing people that they have "toxins" in their body just to buy their product to "clean" the body out.

Further, this thread reminds me of this charlatan.

Yeah, I threw out Trudeau's name in the first or second page of this thread...to no avail

 

[MoJoMan]

but mojoman has science on his side. what do doctors know about science. they don't even take science in college. theres no time between Pfizer 4010 and GlaxoSmithKline 3061.

Good nutrition. I don't think this stuff is bad for you.

I'm no scientist, and I'm not a medical expert regarding these matters, but isn't it good to have some toxins in our body? Meaning, vitamins have iron, zinc, copper, tin, etc. Lots of these "toxins" you refer to occur naturally in even organic foods that we consume.

Ever notice that people always seem to be so anti this without examining the whole picture?

Toxins?
Pesticides, Growth Hormones, Preservatives, Residue from Prescription and Non-Prescription Drug, Heavy Metals and a whole list of other stuff can build up inside of you especially if your immune system isn't functioning 100%. But don't worry. Your doctor has a pill for that. No doctor has ever pushed new high priced drug for a drug company that didn't have the absoulte best interest of the patient at heart. These drugs are 100% safe and never have any toxic effect on the body. Same goes for surgery.

Do you doubt that toxins and a poor function immune system
can lead to a whole list of your doctors magic pills? The medical industry is hoping you will get sick, the sooner the better. Remember they have a pill for everything and a pill to counter act the other. For them, the sooner you start taking life long medicians the better. Still, I expect other people with different points of view to protect their position.

Do you Know Everything You put in Your Mouth?

Here is what This Cleanse does.
Toxin Removal and Liver Detox Support - Yes
Heavy Metal Cleanse - Yes
Provides Vitamins, Minerals, Enzymes, Amino Acids and Green Phytofoods - Yes
Replenished Intestinal Flora by Replenishing Good Bacteria - Yes
Colonix Intestinal Cleanser Fiber Supplement - Yes
Paranil Anti-Parasite Support Eliminates Harmful Parasites - Yes
Herbal Tea for Regularity and Detoxification - Yes

Do you change the oil in your car? That's what I hope assist in doing to my insides.

You are correct, most colon cleanses are a waist of time.
But how is this not different? This program is designed to get your insides working at their maximum fast. Properly functioning intestines can give you greater absortion, so you eat less. What I really want is to give my immune system a quick kick start. I have stopped my bad eating habits and constant diet soft drinks. I drink only bottled water. I want it to help my system with a quick boost from what is missing from my normal American diet. Many see it a so much more than a colon cleanse.

Eating Organic
Then I will stop putting these things in my body as much as possible with the addition of a proper diet. By eating organic I hope to reduce the Pesticides, Growth Hormones, Preservatives, Prescription and Non-Prescription Drugs, Heavy Metals and other junk in my diet.

You can flame colon cleanses all day.
This is different. This is a lot more than that. You may be able to achieve this another way, this one is tried and tested with thousands of satisfied customers.

 

[ok awesome]

and what you don't realize is that all of those COMBINED create a wonderful $150 placebo effect.

 

[Lurkaholic]

This thread needs more cowbell in its system.


/heavy metals indeed

 

[RebSaint]

Good nutrition. I don't think this stuff is bad for you.

Ever notice that people always seem to be so anti this without examining the whole picture?

Toxins?
Pesticides, Growth Hormones, Preservatives, Residue from Prescription and Non-Prescription Drug, Heavy Metals and a whole list of other stuff can build up inside of you. Toxins and a poor function immune system can lead to a whole list of pills that the medical industry is willing to sell you. For them, the sooner the better.

Do you Know Everything You put in Your Mouth?



Here is what This Cleanse does.
Toxin Removal and Liver Detox Support - Yes
Heavy Metal Cleanse - Yes
Vitamins, Minerals, Enzymes, Amino Acids and Green Phytofoods - Yes
Replenished Intestinal Flora by Replenishing Good Bacteria - Yes
Colonix Intestinal Cleanser Fiber Supplement - Yes
Paranil Anti-Parasite Support Eliminates Harmful Parasites - Yes
Herbal Tea for Regularity and Detoxification - Yes

Do you change the oil in your car? That's what I hope assist in doing to my insides.

You are correct, most colon cleanses are a waist of time. But how is this not different? This program is designed to get your insides working at their maximum fast. Properly function intestines should give greater absortion so you may eat less. What I really want is to give my immune system a quick kick start. I have stopped my bad eating habits and constant diet soft drinks. I want it to help my system with a quick boost from what is missing from my normal American diet.

Eating Organic
Then I will stop putting these things in my body as much as possible with the addition of a proper diet. By eating organic I hope to reduce the Pesticides, Growth Hormones, Preservatives, Prescription and Non-Prescription Drugs, Heavy Metals and other junk in my diet.

You can flame colon cleanses all day.
This is a lot more than that.
You may be able to achieve this another way, this one is tried and tested with thousands of satisfied customers.

This canned, commercial-like response was really uncessary. If you think it will make you a healthier, happier, better person, have at it.

I'll stick with common sense approaches to good colonistical (sp?) health. I think this post, along with RB's are the best in the thread. To summarize:

Best post of the thread, IMO.

If you want to "cleanse" your system -- eat better. That's it. If you feel you need to do something more, do as Rob suggested -- drink nothing but water for 3 days.

Then eat healthy -- less processed foods, slowly add fiber. That's it.

And count me in the camp who is now convinced that you're pushing this product instead of soliciting real advice and giving first-hand accounts of your use of this product in lieu of giving a sales pitch in responding to most posts. You're mostly copying and pasting information from other websites. The different fonts give it away.

IMO, I think this thread is a case of spamming and advertising more than it is a discussion about the product.

 

[Rob Beaux]

Can you tell me which metals your trying to remove...did you eat paint chips as a kid or something...

How old are you BTW? Rough decade will suffice.. I am curious to figure out which pesticides and stuff you are trying to remove. Certain things were phased out in order to limit intake.

NAME A SPECIFIC HEAVY METAL...

RE pesticides....most are fat soluble...so unless this product dissolves all your fat...You are not getting it out. There is no magic chemical to get it out of fat. This explains why ducks specifically die from pesticide exposure not when they ingest it BUT during the migrations when they are burning the fat. The concentration increases and it reaches a toxic level. Water soluble pesticides...DO NOT stay in your system...unless you dont drink any fluids and never pee...EVER.

NOW name a specific pesticide...NO MORE COMMERCIAL SITE responses. you claimed to do research, now condense it for us and give us the breakdown with specifics. You are either selling this crap, trolling or both..Its time for you to come clean( pun intended)

/subcellular and cellular level metabolism and toxicology is part of my graduate research.

 

[MoJoMan]

This canned, commercial-like response was really uncessary. If you think it will make you a healthier, happier, better person, have at it.

I'll stick with common sense approaches to good colonistical (sp?) health. I think this post, along with RB's are the best in the thread. To summarize:



And count me in the camp who is now convinced that you're pushing this product instead of soliciting real advice and giving first-hand accounts of your use of this product in lieu of giving a sales pitch in responding to most posts. You're mostly copying and pasting information from other websites. The different fonts give it away.

IMO, I think this thread is a case of spamming and advertising more than it is a discussion about the product.

Look, I taking the stuff. I could care less if you want to. I trust that everybody here has their opinion. This is what I happen to believe.

It is amazing how negatitive this board is. Sure it could have been done another way. Sure you may not need it. I was actually looking for some encouragement but that has been few and far between.

 

[domedog316]

Look, I taking the stuff. I could care less if you want to. I trust that everybody here has their opinion. This is what I happen to believe.

It is amazing how negatitive this board is. Sure it could have been done another way. Sure you may not need it. I was actually looking for some encouragement but that has been few and far between.

The board isn't negative. It's realistic. Folks are shooting you straight....if you want encouragement about this kind of thing, you may want to talk to your family, not a messageboard full of strangers.

 

[RSF]

Can you train a dog to clean up its own feces? Like maybe you could give him a little shovel and teach him to scoop it up and put it in the garbage can? Seriously.

I still haven't received an answer.

 

[Saints#34]

You most likely won't. Considering I had to ask my question again and simply had the original generic response copied and pasted back to me.

 

[Lurkaholic]

Look, I taking the stuff. I could care less if you want to. I trust that everybody here has their opinion. This is what I happen to believe.

It is amazing how negatitive this board is. Sure it could have been done another way. Sure you may not need it. I was actually looking for some encouragement but that has been few and far between.

Actually, I believe the title of this thread is "Body Cleanse....do you believe in it?" You asked the question, we're giving you our answers and attempting to extract information from you which might assist us in making a better-informed decision about whether or not we "believe in it". Although something tells me that if you took the same route we are taking, you wouldn't have wasted your money and time on this foolishness to begin with. Now perhaps you would care to either end this thread or post answers to the various "toxin" questions people have posed to you herein. And before you do it, typing/cutting/pasting an infomercial, bold-letter response isn't what we're looking for (although it seems to be all you're capable of). Having said this, I am led to believe that you either work for this company and have a vested interest in this or read nothing but these witch doctor, shock post, medical science is bad websites all day...thus limiting your experience with the written English language and the art of rhetoric to bold faced headers with little information following. Thus, let me attempt to come down to you. Tell me how I do:



Our Opinion. You asked for it!

Toxins?
We have asked you over and over what, exactly, EXACTLY, EXACTLY you mean by this term. You have been asked where they come from, what they are, where they are "hiding". You are incapable of answering in a way satisfactory to the adult mind.

You =/ Science
Is medical science perfect? Of course it isn't. However, this thread isn't about medical science by your own making. You say you are "doing this for science". The problem with that is that nothing scientific is going on here. Your taking of a supplement and posting blindly about it is not science. Are you doing tests on your fecal matter before and after to see what changes in the waste "toxin" level in your excrement is? Are you having x-rays performed to show the thinning out of the fecal impact in your bowel? Are you doing blood tests to determine the impact of this on your bloodstream, liver, and kidneys? Are there changes in the levels of things? You don't know, thus neither do we. You are doing nothing scientific.

Still, I expect other people with different points of view to protect their position.
ROFL, this just writes itself. This I copied directly from a post of yours. Not surprisingly, it is the very same thing you're now crying salty tears over.

Do you Know Everything You put in Your Mouth?
Again, I lifted this straight from your post. To answer this, of course I don't. Neither does anyone else. Neither do you. As Rebsaint has already pointed out, the levels of elements in those pills are not disclosed with honesty. They are hidden under vague alloy-type modifications - something that is in direct conflict with your reasoning for taking this.

Here is what YOU KNOW This Cleanse does. (italics mine, other text his)
Toxin Removal and Liver Detox Support - No. We don't know what these toxins are and neither do you. Your lack of bloodtest before and after makes the liver a moot point.
Heavy Metal Cleanse - Again, you have no information.
Provides Vitamins, Minerals, Enzymes, Amino Acids and Green Phytofoods - Possibly. You have no measuring of levels, so you cannot tell what, if any, change has occurred. You also don't even have full disclosure as to the makeup of your product.
Replenished Intestinal Flora by Replenishing Good Bacteria - No. If you wanted to do that you'd eat yoghurt. Instead, this is to destroy the lining and sluff it off, removing bacterial buildup.
Colonix Intestinal Cleanser Fiber Supplement - Have you measured fibrous stool content before and after your "cleanse"? I didn't think so. You do not know this.
Paranil Anti-Parasite Support Eliminates Harmful Parasites - You have stated yourself that nothing has been excreted of note yet. Thus, no parasites. As has been shown to you with factual, researched information, people in the united states almost never have intestinal parasites unless they are small children or extremely unclean. Are you unclean?
Herbal Tea for Regularity and Detoxification - Show me the information that this keeps you regular and removes mystery-magic toxins. No info? didn't think so


You can flame colon cleanses all day.
Again, your own words. Actually, this is a sales pitch you copied from some website or your own literature, but you posted it, so it's close enough. And flame we have. Perhaps next time you should read your information before you post it. There might be something in it you disagree with. Oh wait, what's that? Your information is formatted in such a way to frustrate people and to encourage their eye to skim over all of the small information without actually reading it, thereby creating a story using the bold titles that it believes to be true while having read none of the information? Yep. That's what I thought.


I'm afraid our time is up here.
It's been so nice chatting though. In short, you're either incredibly dim, a salesperson for this company, or a troll. Whichever one it is, I hope your stay here is a short one.

 

[Rob Beaux]

lus-un2::_rofl:

Couldnt agree more lurk great post. I however along with my wife and a few other biologists have been having many laughs over this...so i kind of hope it continues...

I cant wait for the big day of complete cleansing....