BS penalty. Int. grounding on Jameis. (1 Viewer)

It was legit. Winston thought the clock was still running and that he was tackled in bounds. The refs stopped the clock because Landry got up and ran out of bounds. It’s a penalty to spike on a stopped clock.
Landry was down inbound though. Clock should not have stopped. Refs messed up led to the penalty.
 
I said that to my family and friends here watching the game. There was no need to hurry up and spike it. But it will be an awareness learning session for sure.
By the way, I thought Jonathan Vilma was pretty lackluster today. There were numerous game-affecting moments that he failed to notice or mention. Conversely, there were a few times when he mentioned something that had no bearing on the game whatsoever. Like at the end when the clock stopped with :03 seconds left, he said, "That'll save them the timeout." For what, JV?
 
It wasn’t clear that Landry was down by contact and then he rolled out of bounds. Winston should’ve checked whether the clock was running. Still, I didn’t know that a QB couldn’t spike it when the clock wasn’t running. Winston did mess up by spiking it in 3rd and short with almost 30 seconds left. That one made me more angry. Not only could we have allowed the clock to run if we had decided to kick a field goal, but also we might’ve been able to get a first down. I can only imagine that Winston thought it was 2nd down. He needs to be told to look at the scoreboard to check for running time and down and distance. He should know this, but apparently not.
 
Right, it was a penalty.

But Landry was obviously down by contact, so much so that Winston didn't think it was even possible he wasn't. Refs should have made their original call of out of bounds clear.
I don't see how it matters.
 
It wasn’t clear that Landry was down by contact and then he rolled out of bounds. Winston should’ve checked whether the clock was running. Still, I didn’t know that a QB couldn’t spike it when the clock wasn’t running. Winston did mess up by spiking it in 3rd and short with almost 30 seconds left. That one made me more angry. Not only could we have allowed the clock to run if we had decided to kick a field goal, but also we might’ve been able to get a first down. I can only imagine that Winston thought it was 2nd down. He needs to be told to look at the scoreboard to check for running time and down and distance. He should know this, but apparently not.
Apparently Carmichael and the rest of the coaching staff were fooled too. Because they sure didn't tell Winston otherwise.
 
Landry was down by contact. Clock should have started OR refs should have let Winston know it was called out of bounds.

Chump move to call that penalty on him.
Refs aren’t required nor should they tell the QBs what’s going on. QBs should check the clock, down and distance. Winston almost messed everything up on that last drive with those 2 spikes.
 
It wasn’t clear that Landry was down by contact and then he rolled out of bounds. Winston should’ve checked whether the clock was running. Still, I didn’t know that a QB couldn’t spike it when the clock wasn’t running. Winston did mess up by spiking it in 3rd and short with almost 30 seconds left. That one made me more angry. Not only could we have allowed the clock to run if we had decided to kick a field goal, but also we might’ve been able to get a first down. I can only imagine that Winston thought it was 2nd down. He needs to be told to look at the scoreboard to check for running time and down and distance. He should know this, but apparently not.
He might’ve thought it was 2nd down. That series got messed up by the ref calling Landry out of bound.
 
Never ever heard of such a rule. I still cannot figure out the call and what the ruling was.

Is it the Saints fault the clock wasn’t running? Why would the official spot the ball and not start the clock? Why would the officials allow the Saints to even snap the ball?

I DON’T GET IT!

Anybody?

The clock stopped because Landry got out of bounds. Winston though he was downed in bounds. So they spot the ball with the clock stopped like you would expect. Winston ran up and clocked it without the clock running. Ergo penalty flag.
 
The clock stopped because Landry got out of bounds. Winston though he was downed in bounds. So they spot the ball with the clock stopped like you would expect. Winston ran up and clocked it without the clock running. Ergo penalty flag.
Why is it a penalty though?
 

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