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Infowars host Alex Jones cannot use bankruptcy protection to avoid paying the families of the victims of the Sandy Hookschool shooting, a judge has ruled.

Mr Jones was sued by the families of the 26 people killed in the 2012 massacre over his repeated promotion of a false theory that the shooting was a hoax.

A judge ordered Mr Jones to pay $1.5bn to the families, but the conspiracy theorist has so far failed to pay out any of the sum after he filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection last year.

However, a Texas judge ruled on Thursday that bankruptcy protections do not apply over findings of “willful and malicious” conduct, so Mr Jones must pay the families.

“The families are pleased with the Court’s ruling that Jones’s malicious conduct will find no safe harbor in the bankruptcy court,” said Christopher Mattei, a Connecticut lawyer for the families. “As a result, Jones will continue to be accountable for his actions into the future regardless of his claimed bankruptcy.”…..

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Alex Jones can’t use bankruptcy to avoid paying Sandy Hook families, judge says

A judge ordered Alex Jones to pay $1.5 billion to the families of the victims of the Sandy Hook school shooting,
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Optimus Prime said:
Infowars host Alex Jones cannot use bankruptcy protection to avoid paying the families of the victims of the Sandy Hookschool shooting, a judge has ruled.

Mr Jones was sued by the families of the 26 people killed in the 2012 massacre over his repeated promotion of a false theory that the shooting was a hoax.

A judge ordered Mr Jones to pay $1.5bn to the families, but the conspiracy theorist has so far failed to pay out any of the sum after he filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection last year.

However, a Texas judge ruled on Thursday that bankruptcy protections do not apply over findings of “willful and malicious” conduct, so Mr Jones must pay the families.

“The families are pleased with the Court’s ruling that Jones’s malicious conduct will find no safe harbor in the bankruptcy court,” said Christopher Mattei, a Connecticut lawyer for the families. “As a result, Jones will continue to be accountable for his actions into the future regardless of his claimed bankruptcy.”…..

www.independent.co.uk

Alex Jones can’t use bankruptcy to avoid paying Sandy Hook families, judge says

A judge ordered Alex Jones to pay $1.5 billion to the families of the victims of the Sandy Hook school shooting,
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I hope he ends up homeless under a bridge until a truck runs him over...
 
The families of victims of the mass killing at Sandy Hook Elementary School have offered Infowars founder Alex Jones a deal to settle the $1.5 billion debt for only about 6 percent of what he owes them for saying the 2012 massacre in Newtown, Conn., was a hoax, according to a new court filing.


The settlement offer, which was filed in Jones’s personal bankruptcy case in Houston last week, calls for the right-wing conspiracy theorist to pay the families at least $85 million over 10 years.

Lawyers for the Sandy Hook families wrote that Jones could either liquidate his estate and give the proceeds to creditors, or pay the families at least $8.5 million a year for 10 years — and 50 percent of any income over $9 million a year — to settle his debt.


While lawyers described the proposal as a viable way to help resolve the bankruptcy cases that Jones faces for himself and his company, Free Speech Systems, the attorneys for the victims slammed the Infowars founder for failing to curb his spending, change his “extravagant lifestyle,” or failing to produce financial documents in court.

Jones’s personal spending between May and July of this year was $242,219, including more than $93,000 in July alone, according to previous court filings.

“Jones has failed in every way to serve as the fiduciary mandated by the Bankruptcy Code in exchange for the breathing spell he has enjoyed for almost a year,” lawyers for the Sandy Hook families wrote in the settlement offer filing, which was obtained by The Washington Post. “His time is up.”……..

 
The conspiracy theorist Alex Jones has proposed to pay $55m over 10 years to the Sandy Hook families who sued him for spreading lies that the 2012 school massacre in Connecticut, one of the worst in American history, was a hoax.

The offer came after a Texas judge ruled that Jones, the host of Infowars, could not use bankruptcy protection to dodge the nearly $1.5bn he was ordered to pay to the victims’ families, who suffered abuse and threats from believers of Jones’s lies.

According to the 30-page plan submitted on Friday, Jones offered to pay a lump sum of at least $5.5m a year, to be shared among the plaintiffs. The payment would also be accompanied by a percentage of his personal annual revenue, and a slice of Infowars revenue. His debt would be considered satisfied after 10 years.

“This is the first time that Alex Jones has revealed any sort of plan to pay the families back for the harm he caused them,” said Avi Moshenberg, a lawyer for family members who sued Jones in Texas.

In November, the families’ lawyers proposed a settlement of at least $8.5m annually for 10 years.

The new plan filed with the US bankruptcy court for the southern district of Texas requires court approval. Final hearings in the case are scheduled for late February.…..


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Alex Jones offers $55m to Sandy Hook families to satisfy $1.5bn judgment

Families of the slain schoolchildren had earlier proposed an $85m settlement for the Infowars host’s lies about the 2012 massacre
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Optimus Prime said:
The conspiracy theorist Alex Jones has proposed to pay $55m over 10 years to the Sandy Hook families who sued him for spreading lies that the 2012 school massacre in Connecticut, one of the worst in American history, was a hoax.

The offer came after a Texas judge ruled that Jones, the host of Infowars, could not use bankruptcy protection to dodge the nearly $1.5bn he was ordered to pay to the victims’ families, who suffered abuse and threats from believers of Jones’s lies.

According to the 30-page plan submitted on Friday, Jones offered to pay a lump sum of at least $5.5m a year, to be shared among the plaintiffs. The payment would also be accompanied by a percentage of his personal annual revenue, and a slice of Infowars revenue. His debt would be considered satisfied after 10 years.

“This is the first time that Alex Jones has revealed any sort of plan to pay the families back for the harm he caused them,” said Avi Moshenberg, a lawyer for family members who sued Jones in Texas.

In November, the families’ lawyers proposed a settlement of at least $8.5m annually for 10 years.

The new plan filed with the US bankruptcy court for the southern district of Texas requires court approval. Final hearings in the case are scheduled for late February.…..


www.theguardian.com

Alex Jones offers $55m to Sandy Hook families to satisfy $1.5bn judgment

Families of the slain schoolchildren had earlier proposed an $85m settlement for the Infowars host’s lies about the 2012 massacre
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It’s a pretty perverse offer that to get their money they have to basically take a stake in his grotesque misinformation enterprise.
 
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Parents of children massacred in the Sandy Hook elementary school shooting are stepping up their anti-gun violence campaign by exposing how the firearms industry is marketing weapons of war specifically to vulnerable adolescents.

In a fresh stage in their battle to staunch the rising loss of life from mass shootings, Sandy Hook parents are pressuring gun manufacturers to stop what they say is a cynical and aggressive effort to sell military-style weapons to young and impressionable Americans. They are alarmed by a shift in tone in gun advertising in which, they say, major companies have consciously decided to boost profits by targeting kids as young as 10.

“They are telling lonely and isolated children, ‘This is what you need to be a man, this is what’s going to make you powerful, this is how you avenge yourself on those who bullied you – you need an AR-15,’” said Nicole Hockley, CEO of the Sandy Hook Promisefoundation.

Hockley’s youngest son, Dylan, was six when he was murdered in the December 2012 Sandy Hook shooting in Newtown, Connecticut. He was one of 20 six- and seven-year-olds gunned down, along with six adult staff.

The new Sandy Hook pressure campaign, dubbed Untargeting Kids, comes at a critical time in the US with mass shootings and gun deaths among those under 19 increasing at startling rates. Between 2019 and 2021, firearm deaths among US children and teens rose by 50%, making them the leading cause of death for these age groups above even car accidents.

This year has also seen a record high of 327 school shootings, according to the National Center for Education Statistics – double the year before. Overall, mass shootings are becoming both more frequent and more deadly, according to the Violence Prevention Project.

A growing number of those tragedies are perpetrated by young males aged 21 and under.

At the same time, sales of the AR-15 semi-automatic assault rifle have soared, making the weapon the best-selling rifle in the US, with about one in 20 US adults owning at least one, according to the Washington Post.

The new Sandy Hook campaign follows the group’s successful lawsuit against Remington, maker of the Bushmaster XM15-E2S rifle that was used by the Newtown shooter. The suit forced Remington and its insurers to settle for $73m, tipping the company into bankruptcy.

Critically, Remington was also obliged to hand over thousands of documents revealing its inner workings and strategy. The trove revealed that in 2011, a year before Dylan and the other Sandy Hook victims were killed, the Cerberus Capital venture company that had bought Remington and other gun companies came up with a new ambition – to create “America’s foremost firearms empire”.

A memo titled 2011 Planning Creative Brief that was discovered among the disclosed documents laid out the plan. It specified the demographic groups that were to be targeted, including “Millennials” and “Youth”.

At the time the memo was written, millennials were aged between 10 and 14.

“These were kids who were not legally old enough to buy a firearm, but they were preparing the market ahead – and that’s really disturbing,” Hockley said. “In the last 10 years, it’s gotten significantly worse, with firearms specifically designed for child-sized hands and much more aggressive marketing on social media.”

An example of the trend is the social media message that was posted on 24 May 2022 by Daniel Defense, one of the largest privately owned firearms manufacturers. It consisted of a photo of a young boy, maybe aged six, with a large assault rifle across his lap and an extended clip on the floor beside him.

An adult’s finger is pointing down at him, with the caption: “Train up a child in the way he should go, and when he is old, he will not depart from it.”

On the same day that message was posted, an 18-year-old shooter armed with an M4 carbine produced by Daniel Defense entered the Robb elementary school in Uvalde, Texas, and killed 19 children and two teachers.……….

 
CNN) — Independent presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr. has confirmed that among his potential vice-presidential prospects is New York Jets quarterback Aaron Rodgers, who in private conversations shared deranged conspiracy theories about the 2012 Sandy Hook school shooting not being real.

CNN knows of two people with whom Rodgers has enthusiastically shared these stories, including with Pamela Brown, one of the journalists writing this piece.

Brown was covering the Kentucky Derby for CNN in 2013 when she was introduced to Rodgers, then with the Green Bay Packers, at a post-Derby party. Hearing that she was a journalist with CNN, Rodgers immediately began attacking the news media for covering up important stories.

Rodgers brought up the tragic killing of 20 children and 6 adults by a gunman at Sandy Hook Elementary School, claiming it was actually a government inside job and the media was intentionally ignoring it.

When Brown questioned him on the evidence to show this very real shooting was staged, Rodgers began sharing various theories that have been disproven numerous times.

Such conspiracy theories were also later at the center of lawsuits brought by victims’ families when they sued conspiracy theorist Alex Jones on the matter.

Jones baselessly repeating lies that the 2012 mass shooting was staged, and that the families and first responders were “crisis actors,” spawned multiple lawsuits and a trial was held in 2022 over lawsuits that were filed in Connecticut…….

 
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CNN) — Independent presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr. has confirmed that among his potential vice-presidential prospects is New York Jets quarterback Aaron Rodgers, who in private conversations shared deranged conspiracy theories about the 2012 Sandy Hook school shooting not being real.

CNN knows of two people with whom Rodgers has enthusiastically shared these stories, including with Pamela Brown, one of the journalists writing this piece.

Brown was covering the Kentucky Derby for CNN in 2013 when she was introduced to Rodgers, then with the Green Bay Packers, at a post-Derby party. Hearing that she was a journalist with CNN, Rodgers immediately began attacking the news media for covering up important stories.

Rodgers brought up the tragic killing of 20 children and 6 adults by a gunman at Sandy Hook Elementary School, claiming it was actually a government inside job and the media was intentionally ignoring it.

When Brown questioned him on the evidence to show this very real shooting was staged, Rodgers began sharing various theories that have been disproven numerous times.

Such conspiracy theories were also later at the center of lawsuits brought by victims’ families when they sued conspiracy theorist Alex Jones on the matter.

Jones baselessly repeating lies that the 2012 mass shooting was staged, and that the families and first responders were “crisis actors,” spawned multiple lawsuits and a trial was held in 2022 over lawsuits that were filed in Connecticut…….

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Aaron Rodgers can kiss my m****** Fork**** a**…. Screw that piece of s***.. i know a family that was personally affected by the events of Sandy Hook.. i cant say anymore than that but if this filthy piece of human debris Rodgers said- as multiple sources are claiming- that “those kids werent real”.. then if he were the QB of my football team i would tell him to go **** himself…. This is way beyond football.. people like him endanger society…. people are allowed to say whatever they want, it’s a free country but you are not free from consequences …. So help me god if anyone says this is “political”, there is NOTHING political about this.. it’s only do you accept reality, or not.. not “your” reality or “my” reality, but actual reality…. What an a**wipe this guy is .
 
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Aaron Rodgers can kiss my m****** Fork**** a**…. Screw that piece of s***.. i know a family that was personally affected by the events of Sandy Hook.. i cant say anymore than that but if this filthy piece of human debris Rodgers said- as multiple sources are claiming- that “those kids werent real”.. then if he were the QB of my football team i would tell him to go **** himself…. This is way beyond football.. people like him endanger society…. people are allowed to say whatever they want, it’s a free country but you are not free from consequences …. So help me god if anyone says this is “political”, there is NOTHING political about this.. it’s only do you accept reality, or not.. not “your” reality or “my” reality, but actual reality…. What an a**wipe this guy is .
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he probably thinks the Gov't is responsible for him getting hurt last year..lol
 


For what it’s worth

Basically says Pamela Brown is lying (statement actually doesn’t say that but if he’s telling the truth she’d have to be)

Pretty benign defense considering what he’s being accused of saying
 
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For what it’s worth

Basically says Pamela Brown is lying (statement actually doesn’t say that but if he’s telling the truth she’d have to be)

Pretty benign defense considering what he’s being accused of saying
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Considering the reporter sat on this story for 10 years, I think we should all just agree to ignore it and move on.
 
Mr. Sparkle said:
Considering the reporter sat on this story for 10 years, I think we should all just agree to ignore it and move on.
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Did she ? Or did she think it was fairly irrelevant to put out a story about a guy who plays a kids’ game for a living, no matter how kooky and off base she thought his comments were…. But then once his name came up for the SECOND MOST POWERFUL JOB ON THE PLANET, maybe she then thought it might be pertinent information for the public to know ? Hard to say……. but yeah, by all means, as you said let’s all just move on, im sure there’s nothing to see here……………………….
 
Mr. Blue Sky said:
Did she ? Or did she think it was fairly irrelevant to put out a story about a guy who plays a kids’ game for a living, no matter how kooky and off base she thought his comments were…. But then once his name came up for the SECOND MOST POWERFUL JOB ON THE PLANET, maybe she then thought it might be pertinent information for the public to know ? Hard to say……. but yeah, by all means, as you said let’s all just move on, im sure there’s nothing to see here……………………….
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I'll leave the politics out of it but "Oh yeah by the way I heard this very famous person say this thing at a Kentucky Derby party 10 years ago" is nothing more than gossip.

FWIW I think AR sucks all the way around but CNN has no business floating this out there. It's not journalism. Just my 2 cents.
 

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